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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 19 2009, 2:00 pm    Post subject: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
I keep hearing this as a reason to delay solids, but looking for some literature about how delaying food prevents allergies. I would think that allergies are something that you are predisposed to from birth, ie: my baby has sensitives to soy and milk protein, which were from birth, so how can giving rice cereal etc, cause problems?
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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 19 2009, 2:04 pm    Post subject: re: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
Actually, I always knew the opposite start them young and the body will adjust better. (Of course excluding Milk, eggs fish and honey)
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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 19 2009, 2:40 pm    Post subject:
 
There are schools of thought on both sides of the fence - here are some of the arguments:

(against early solids)
- the body is not yet sufficiently developped
- there are no teeth yet, so solids are not necessary
- overexposure confuses the body and can cause sensitivities/allergies

(for early solids)
- early exposure can help baby adjust to different food types
- less potential for picky eaters
- increased motor skills (that come with spoon holding, self feeding, etc...)

I DO NOT support either side as a "side" - rather I feed my child solids when I feel s/he needs them and is ready. My 1st I started solids at 4 months becuase he was drinking close to 64 oz. of formula AND nursing regularly a day and was still hungry - so solids helped immensly - he had allergies before solids and sitll has them today

#2 didn't start solids until 6 months becuase she was ready and she jumped from purees and cereals straight to mashed foods with in 2 weeks (she hated puree and still does today!) - she has even more allergies than #1!

#3 didn't start solids until about 7-8 month becuase he just wasn't interested - and was sufficeintly full from nursing and later bottles (which we only began at 6-7 months).

A friend of mine still f/t nurses her 9 month old and her baby seems quite satisfied and is growing very nicely.

IMO, bottom line - you know your child. If you feel they are ready (and interested) - go for it. If you are concerned about allergies, then wait a full 5-7 days between new foods and 7-10 days between new groups (combining already tolerated foods). From my experience, the only thing "early" solids can contribute is if you don't pay attention to your child's reactions to food and if you begin "at risk" foods before exposing your child to the basics first.
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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 19 2009, 7:18 pm    Post subject: re: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
Latest research indicates that waiting until 6 months to prevent allergies has actually increased allergy rates. The recommendation here has gone back to 4-6 months. They encourage babies be exposed to traces of allergen food (not whole allergens but eating peanuts around babies etc).

We waited until just shy of 6 months for the other two as was the recommendation at the time. This time I am taking his cues and open to when he is ready between 4 and 6 months. He's over 4 months now but not ready and will probably be closer to 6 months anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 19 2009, 9:02 pm    Post subject: re: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
Well, this is not scientific data, but we started my first one at around 4 months and he ended up having severe allergies. Not a huge amount, but the ones he had were life-threatening. The subsequent ones we waited and they have no food allergies.

My husband's family has lots of food allergies so we waited for two years to even try those foods.
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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 19 2009, 9:44 pm    Post subject:
 
There is also a slight genetic component. Both my DSs started solids at almost 6 months (DS 2 wasn't quite ready but I had a medical emergency that necessitated it). DS#1 is peanut allergic, DS#2 has no allergies. NEITHER CHILD HAS EVER BEEN INTENTIONALLY EXPOSED TO PEANUTS. We don't have nuts or peanut products in the house because I'm allergic to them, and I'm totally overprotective about Bamba and the like in the playground/gan/daycare. Nonetheless, DS#1 doesn't react on the testing, only in practice (when accidentally exposed).
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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 19 2009, 10:26 pm    Post subject:
 
My baby started having allergic reactions within 2 weeks of his birth. He reacted through breast milk, and never had a drop of solids till he was 7 months old. I had to go on an elimination diet. Because he was allergic too so much, formula was not an option.
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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 19 2009, 10:58 pm    Post subject: re: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
I was wondering about this. I had read a study that the later babies are introduced to peanuts the bigger the chances that they'll be allergic. But my ped. told me no peanuts till LO is 2....
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 2:30 am    Post subject:
 
chica wrote:
I was wondering about this. I had read a study that the later babies are introduced to peanuts the bigger the chances that they'll be allergic. But my ped. told me no peanuts till LO is 2....


Here they call that "The Bamba Effect"...but if there's a genetic predisposition to an allergen it won't matter when you introduce that item. DS#1 had NEVER been exposed to peanuts (not even by accident) when he got a positive result on his allergy test (almost a year old). And now he doesn't react on the testing, only in "real life".
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 4:11 am    Post subject: Re: re: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
Rodent wrote:
Latest research indicates that waiting until 6 months to prevent allergies has actually increased allergy rates. The recommendation here has gone back to 4-6 months. They encourage babies be exposed to traces of allergen food (not whole allergens but eating peanuts around babies etc).



nursing inherently does this....maybe that is partly why when one nurses it decreases the chance of later allergens?

but there definitely are cases where a child can be allergic/sensitive to milk at an early age and outgrow the allergy, but I do not know why.

also, as the child gets bigger, the gut becomes stronger and is able to tolerate more foods. I am hypothesizing that maybe because of this if one overtaxes the immature gut with things that are quasi-okay (baby is slightly sensitive to this food) for the baby, then it will cause such a burden to the gut or the immune system that it will cause the baby to develop an allergy from the overexposure of something that wasn't so good for him in the first place???? just a thought.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: re: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
chica wrote:
I was wondering about this. I had read a study that the later babies are introduced to peanuts the bigger the chances that they'll be allergic. But my ped. told me no peanuts till LO is 2....


Teenage dd says she sees that only the Americans are allergic to peanuts.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 6:41 am    Post subject:
 
My DS is DEFINITELY a sabra (albeit with a Canadian mother). My allergist says there's a genetic component as well.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 6:59 am    Post subject:
 
Marion wrote:
My DS is DEFINITELY a sabra (albeit with a Canadian mother). My allergist says there's a genetic component as well.


it's definately genetic. I know a few cousins who have similar (mainly nut) allergies, some to a much greater extent then others.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 10:07 am    Post subject:
 
Mommy3.5 wrote:
My baby started having allergic reactions within 2 weeks of his birth. He reacted through breast milk, and never had a drop of solids till he was 7 months old. I had to go on an elimination diet. Because he was allergic too so much, formula was not an option.

Woaw! How did you manage to do the elimination process and find exactly what he was allergic to?
Baby 3 started his allergic reaction (diaper rash) at day 2. It got worse (rash on face and body, blood in the stool) and would only get better if I would eat rice and only rice....
I started him on solids at 5 months, but he could only take plain rice cereal or plain applesauce and 2 or 3 types of vegetables until he was 9-10 months.
Now I'm trying to diversify his foods and he's getting a rash again, so I'm back to rice cakes, plain chicken and butternut squash jars.....

Anyway, I think babies who have a predisposition to allergies will have reaction whatever the age you give them the food, if it's before one year old. After that, the body is stronger. I noticed that if you wait before giving an allergen and introduce it very slowly (1/2 teaspoon every 3 or 4 days), your baby might outgrow it.
If you know something causes a reaction, even just a red spot or a 2 hours rash, wait a week or longer before trying the ingredient again.
If something causes bloody diaper rash or vomiting, take it off the diet for a few months at least.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 10:27 am    Post subject: re: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
Part of hte rationale for waiting six months in particular has to do with the composition of the intestinal walls; apparently, there' smore "leakage" from the gut with an infant meaning that foods get into hte bloodstream in an undigested state which they say can cause allergies. That's why waiting 6 months to start solids can avoid undue early sensitization.

As for early exposure, you can expose your baby to peanuts/allergens by eating htem yourself. That way, the baby gets some of the allergen in the breastmilk, but even if there IS leakage from the gut, it was pre-digested by you, so not more harmful than direct ingestion later than 6 months. Yes, there's an official recommendation from APA not to eat peanuts during pregnancy/lactation, but there's no scientific data to back that up.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 11:13 am    Post subject:
 
Mommy3.5 wrote:
My baby started having allergic reactions within 2 weeks of his birth. He reacted through breast milk, and never had a drop of solids till he was 7 months old. I had to go on an elimination diet. Because he was allergic too so much, formula was not an option.


OK, I know these are dumb questions but: can someone explain the process, how a baby would be allergic to what the mother ate via mother's milk. Because doesn't the body break down the components of the food and then process the milk? ie, the baby isn't drinking the eggs you ate but the vitamins and minerals from the eggs.

I'm not questioning you I'm trying to understand how it would work.

Also, if the baby was allergic to the milk, why didn't it react in utero to the food from the umbilical cord? Isn't it basically the same process?
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 11:33 am    Post subject:
 
HindaRochel wrote:
Mommy3.5 wrote:
My baby started having allergic reactions within 2 weeks of his birth. He reacted through breast milk, and never had a drop of solids till he was 7 months old. I had to go on an elimination diet. Because he was allergic too so much, formula was not an option.


OK, I know these are dumb questions but: can someone explain the process, how a baby would be allergic to what the mother ate via mother's milk. Because doesn't the body break down the components of the food and then process the milk? ie, the baby isn't drinking the eggs you ate but the vitamins and minerals from the eggs.

I'm not questioning you I'm trying to understand how it would work.

Also, if the baby was allergic to the milk, why didn't it react in utero to the food from the umbilical cord? Isn't it basically the same process?


I wish I knew how it worked. There are things that one cannot explain but are very real. My guess is that the baby does not only take the vitamin and minerals but also the protein and other nutrients from what the mother ate. For example, If I would eat egg, the baby would get some of the egg protein, have an allergy reaction to it by having a rash (or his rash being aggravated) and blood in the stool.

As far as the baby in utero is concerned, I'm still wondering if there's a correlation between foetus having "allergies" and the mother feeling very sick/nauseous/vomiting. Indeed, I was so sick when pregnant with the babies that ended up having severe allergies and only mild morning sickness/nausea with the baby who has no allergy. Maybe we should make a poll about it....
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 11:36 am    Post subject: re: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
One of my best friend's sons has big time food allergies, actually he is 3 and can only eat special presciption formula (which he eats through a tube). This kid was breastfed until the food allergies were confirmed. I believe at the time they tried the elimination diet and it clearly didnt work.

Her second child is only 2 months old and was being breastfed, but started to develop signs of a food allergy and they got him tested and lo and behold he also has allergies, so he is now on nutramigen. I think because of her older son's big time allergies they figure that the elimination diet won't work.

I think in this family's case its clearly genetic.

My DD was not breastfed, started food pretty early (rice cereal at 3 months- due to doctor advice) and she has NO food allergies (B"H). Go figure!
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: re: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
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One of my best friend's sons has big time food allergies, actually he is 3 and can only eat special presciption formula (which he eats through a tube). This kid was breastfed until the food allergies were confirmed. I believe at the time they tried the elimination diet and it clearly didnt work.

Her second child is only 2 months old and was being breastfed, but started to develop signs of a food allergy and they got him tested and lo and behold he also has allergies, so he is now on nutramigen. I think because of her older son's big time allergies they figure that the elimination diet won't work.

I think in this family's case its clearly genetic.

My DD was not breastfed, started food pretty early (rice cereal at 3 months- due to doctor advice) and she has NO food allergies (B"H). Go figure!


It does sound genetic. Is this going to for the rest of his life in terms of eating?

Not all babies will develop allergies, it is a matter of preponderance rather than a given!
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 20 2009, 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: re: HOw does delaying baby food prevent allergies
 
HindaRochel wrote:
DiznyIma wrote:
One of my best friend's sons has big time food allergies, actually he is 3 and can only eat special presciption formula (which he eats through a tube). This kid was breastfed until the food allergies were confirmed. I believe at the time they tried the elimination diet and it clearly didnt work.

Her second child is only 2 months old and was being breastfed, but started to develop signs of a food allergy and they got him tested and lo and behold he also has allergies, so he is now on nutramigen. I think because of her older son's big time allergies they figure that the elimination diet won't work.

I think in this family's case its clearly genetic.

My DD was not breastfed, started food pretty early (rice cereal at 3 months- due to doctor advice) and she has NO food allergies (B"H). Go figure!


It does sound genetic. Is this going to for the rest of his life in terms of eating?


With their first child, the 3 year old, there are still a lot of questions being answered regarding his condition. They still really aren't 100% sure what is wrong with him. Along with actual allergies he also has digestive issues.

With the second child its still too early to know if his case will progress like his brother's or if it will "just" be allergies. I think my friend is certainly worried that the second child has the same condition.



Not all babies will develop allergies, it is a matter of preponderance rather than a given!
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