Do you wash after the bathroom OUTSIDE the bathroom?

Do you wash your hands in the bathroom or outside the bathroom and why?

We wash OUTSIDE the bathroom, with a cup, like negal vasser. (we do 4 times each...)
I wash my hands after going into the bathroom, even just to bathe the baby.
so washing IN the bathroom would not help, cuz when I'm done, I'm still in the bathroom!
I would wash my hands with soap in the bathroom, and then outside, just with a cup...

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Doesn't it depend on where your sink is located???? Pls tell me by outside the bathroom you are referring to european style bathrooms that have sinks outside & not to the kitchen sink.

Posted: Thu, Oct 08 2009, 6:30 pm Post subject:

wash my hands inside. no cup
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yes, I washmy hands in the kitchen sink. with soap if it was #2, without if it wasn't.
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I never took upon myself to wash outside the bathroom. I didn't think I'd always be able to do it.

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I cannot stand when pple wash their hands from the bathroom in the kitchen. I guess I must not be that spiritual because washing twice would feel ocd to me.

I wash by the kitchen sink, no cup, put each hand under running water, 3 times each, then wigh soap. I always feel guilty after, being that I was tught to was with cup by the kitchen...

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red sea as far as I was taught your hands remain tamei if you dont wash them outside the bathroom. no eating or davening if your hands are tamei.

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I should but I don't. I wash my hands with soap in the bathroom.

Posted: Thu, Oct 08 2009, 9:34 pm Post subject:

Outside with a cup!!!
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I wash with soup in the bathroom then with negel vasser in the kitchen.
err I mean I wash with SOAP in the bathroom. I think I have soup on the brain.

Posted: Fri, Oct 09 2009, 8:03 am Post subject:

we've had this exact thread before ... careful who you ask Puke

now I couldn't really care less if you wash with a cup in or out of the bathroom ... however, WASH YOUR HANDS WITH SOAP in the BATHROOM first ... holy & clean are two different things ... and nobody wants pee on their dishes
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my rav said that washing your hands isn't the problem, it's drying them in the bathroom.

in any case, I wash my hands with soap in the bathroom & with a negel vasser cup in the kitchen. I would feel very funny washing my hands after using the restroom/changing a diaper in a sink where I have dishes.

The halochos of bathroom are very different today than before plumbing.
Then there were outhouses. And if someone had a chamber in the house the waste went into a chamber pot which remained in the same room, just under a cover.

Today, when you flush, your waste leaves the bathroom. The room may have been used for excretion but it is no dirtier nor is it more tamei than your kitchen once you have flushed.

If you are talking about a room that has a toilet and a sink it is very different than an outhouse with a jug of water. Same BTW goes for negel vasser where you are not allowed to walk 4 amos before having washed, however your entire house is considered your "daled amos" meaning 4 amos, hence you don't have to keep water under your bed and wash there, you can walk to the bathroom, kitchen, wherever and do it.

Understand what "daled amos", "tamei" and "bathroom" mean halochically.
A lot of it today is just personal feeling because a "bathroom" is not what a bathroom used to be when these halochos were codified.
Running water and flushing make all the difference.

So if this is all true why are there rabbonim who still pasken that you have to wash for kedusha outside the bathroom? Because of the function of the room, not because of the excrement which is in the room. However if you have a bathroom in which there is a toilet, a sink, a bathtub, a mirror, medicine chest etc. that room has many functions. The minute you have a sink in together with the toilet that room has many functions.

And if you have a diaper pail in a baby's room and it is closed are you allowed to make a brocho in that room?
Answer - no.
Because of the excrement.
But you are definitely allowed to wash the hands in the bathroom, just make your asher yotzar outside the bathroom because of the use of the room.
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Posted: Fri, Oct 09 2009, 9:43 am Post subject:

I wash with soap and water in the bathroom. That's it.
We don't wash negel vasser afterward. That's not what we learned.
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