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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
MOE wrote:
its too bad wearing a kippah is not a mitzvah I wonder what you would say then.


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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 9:25 am    Post subject: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
BTW the video was very funny Smile

I might lose my head for this ? but I'm asking op sincerely here... funny as it is, does this speech violate laws of lashon harah by listening to it? I'm working on L.H. but am not yet proficient.
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 9:33 am    Post subject: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
Which conservative school do his children attend?

I knew of orthodox families that chose the conservative elementary schools because they were better suited educationally for their children, but that they went on to orthodox HS and are religious.
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
SarahO. wrote:
BTW the video was very funny Smile

I might lose my head for this ? but I'm asking op sincerely here... funny as it is, does this speech violate laws of lashon harah by listening to it? I'm working on L.H. but am not yet proficient.


I don't think so SarahO... it's kind of like a Purim shpiel where the people being "roasted" are involved in the joke and willing participants. But then again, what if the person touches on something the guy doesn't want the world to know about... could get complicated...
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 9:37 am    Post subject: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
oh okay, that makes sense.. btw I like your avatar Bambamama Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
JC wrote:
Which conservative school do his children attend?

I knew of orthodox families that chose the conservative elementary schools because they were better suited educationally for their children, but that they went on to orthodox HS and are religious.


I think Anshe Emett. It's a drastic choice if you're Orthodox.


--Edited because it may have been L"H.


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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
LeahW wrote:
JC wrote:
Which conservative school do his children attend?

I knew of orthodox families that chose the conservative elementary schools because they were better suited educationally for their children, but that they went on to orthodox HS and are religious.


I think Anshe Emett. It's a drastic choice if you're Orthodox. It's not certain the children are Jewish in any case.


Why do you question the Jewishness of his children?
Listen, I don't like Obama either, but if he is a religious Jew, even if he isn't Orthodox, I am assuming his wife is Jewish.
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 9:44 am    Post subject: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
--Edited because it may have been L"H.

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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 1:26 pm    Post subject: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
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I met a very famous guy (well if you happen to be a pension actuary) who told me that when he was getting started in his field if he had worn a kippah he would not have gotten a job.


der aibeshter signs the paychecks! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 1:35 pm    Post subject: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
it was a funny clip!
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 1:39 pm    Post subject:
 
It was cute, some funny parts.
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
LeahW wrote:


Interesting however that Emanuel would ask a "shayla"...


Yeah, I had seen that article and made the same comment to my dh.

I believe his kids are in that school b/c that's where he went to school. I know you have "all flavors" of Orthodox schools, but you also have all flavors of people unhappy with all of them Sad . (We've considered moving to Chicago)
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
Edited so as not to repeat Lashon Hara edited out.

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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
LeahW wrote:
She converted at his insistence for marriage... doesn't sound kosher to me.


Is questioning whether or not a conversion was valid lashon hara?
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
Barbara wrote:

Is questioning whether or not a conversion was valid lashon hara?


If she is Jewish, I think it is possibly worse than just lashon hara as we mitzvahs regarding the treatment of gerim.....

Edited lashon hara out - and wanting to add "what toeles is there to discussing someone's conversion? It's an issue for beis din, not the yentas of imamother"


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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 5:16 pm    Post subject:
 
I was thinking about this again. IIRC, the shaila is about beis din accepting someone who wants to convert knowing they want to marry a Jew, not that their conversion is "pasul" once it is done. I'll have to ask dh when he gets home, but I'm quite confident I remember learning that once they are converted, if they are sincere in keeping shabbos, kashrus and taharas hamishpach (the "big three") there is no shaila about the conversion. I also know that there are many teshuvas about why the whole "not allowing them to convert for marriage" doesn't apply in this day and age (if someone wants to start a thread we could discuss that there). Bottom line, if this woman was accepted by an Orthodox beis din and is keeping "the big three" it's pretty disgusting to be speculating that "she may not be Jewish".
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PostPosted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 11:31 am    Post subject:
 
edited as there is no longer need

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PostPosted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 12:01 pm    Post subject: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
To imamothers in general, I have a suggestion: when you think someone has spoken lashon hara here, instead of publicly humiliating them, why not PM them? Kind of hypocritical to publicly accuse someone of being disgusting for saying Lashon Hara, don't you think?

LeahW, you might be right, but if you aren't sure, better not to say (unless we were talking about a shidduch here)
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PostPosted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 12:38 pm    Post subject: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
Thanks AMMom. So I edited my posts and now the only references to the L"H are those of you who quoted and chastised me... That I would call ironic. I'm pretty makpid about L"H, but sometimes I slip up. Next time PM me. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 6:45 pm    Post subject: re: Funny: Obama Roasts Rahm Emmanuel
 
Which reminds me of how important it is to be careful about LH when one is posting as amother. Because being careful about it when posting under your own name, but not so when you're posting anonymously -- that is pretty ironic. Too bad we can't let amothers know by pm when they've done this!

I just thought I'd post a little PSA, while we're discussing the evils of LH.
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