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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:06 am    Post subject: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
So, we have our kids in a gan at a home. We normally pay with checks, but I just saw the 2 latest checks bounced. They must have been written of the wrong household account that is mostly empty.
I feel very embarrassed, after all, we drive a car and can afford the gan. I feel so ashamed to go to her with the cash and do not want to write her another check. I could write her one from another account that does have the money on it but I am just to embarrassed. WWYD
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:08 am    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
I wouldn't even give it much thought. I'd tell her what happened, and either pay by check or by cash, and include whatever feel she may have been charged by her bank, if they do that. We all make mistakes.
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:15 am    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
What's to be embarassed? You made a mistake so make good on it, plus remburse her for what her bank charged due to your check bouncing. And don't let it happen again.
It makes me wonder why the caretaker didn't say anything?
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:34 am    Post subject:
 
(is this a joke?)
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:39 am    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
When I was first out of school and had my first real job, I started to pay for many of my own things (like shoes, tights etc..). I didn't have that much money in the account, about $400 or so and gave a check of $30 to a tights store right before pesach. We went away for pesach that year to an area upstate with no cell reception. I came home to find letters of my check bounced and fees, plus a voicemail message from the store. I was so embarrased. The first thing I did was check my math in my ledgar and I was about two hundred dollars off, but I still should have had $200 in the account, more than enough to cover the check. What ended up happening is the girl who did my direct deposit forgot to do it before y't and I had put it in already, becausen it went automatically every week. I got them to pay my fees as well as the stores fees as well as a letter to the store, but still very emb. Now the lady that owns the store is my great aunt (through marriage). Life is funny. Just explain the mistake and give cash. No big deal.
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:42 am    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
Um...if you are embarrassed that you bounced the check, chances are she already knows.

What happened is totally understandable. There's nothing embarrassing about saying you accidentally used the wrong account. It's far more embarrassing to know that you never went back to pay.
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:43 am    Post subject:
 
greentiger wrote:
(is this a joke?)
was wondering the same... if it was in response to my thread about charging for people with no money...
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:44 am    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
Why would someone joke about such a situation. It sounds real to me, but I'm gullible.
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:47 am    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
Quote:
we drive a car and can afford the gan
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:48 am    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
Why would someone make fun of Seraph's thread?
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:51 am    Post subject:
 
Seraph wrote:
greentiger wrote:
(is this a joke?)
was wondering the same... if it was in response to my thread about charging for people with no money...


Me too. Like a way of saying 'dan lechaf zechus' on the other thread, that maybe they didn't realize the checks had bounced.

To the OP or to the mother at Seraph's gan, or to anyone else this happened to:

Go this minute and pay (including the bank charge for the bounced cheque), and apologise and explain what happened. Mistakes can happen and if it is genuine you can only apologise, but to not go now because you are embarrassed is not a mistake and just plain 'lo talin' bemeizid (keeping over a worker's pay overnight deliberately).
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:51 am    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
Seraph wrote:
[like I'm getting annoyed that these people that arent able to pay have cars... I dont have a car bec its beyond my budget, and then these people with cars arent paying me because they dont have the money...
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
Aidelmom wrote:
Seraph wrote:
[like I'm getting annoyed that these people that arent able to pay have cars... I dont have a car bec its beyond my budget, and then these people with cars arent paying me because they dont have the money...


I see what you're saying, I guess I'm just not that observant. I tend to skim the idea of the thread, not every word, takes too long.
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 10:55 am    Post subject:
 
dont worry I didnt think of it either until seraph and greentiger pointed it out
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 11:24 am    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
This post is not serious (sorry for my wicked sense of humor) but I wanted to use this as an opportunity to show that every story has to sides and that it is always very easy to take sides with any OP, instead of looking at the other side of the coin as well.
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 11:31 am    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
What was "the other side" here? That a selfish person would put her own embarrassment before the halachically correct thing to do? There are no 2 sides when you gyp someone.
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
Tamiri wrote:
What was "the other side" here? That a selfish person would put her own embarrassment before the halachically correct thing to do? There are no 2 sides when you gyp someone.


Yes
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
Tamiri wrote:
What was "the other side" here? That a selfish person would put her own embarrassment before the halachically correct thing to do? There are no 2 sides when you gyp someone.


Or that someone would mock a woman who is struggling to pay her own bills and put food on her own table, but who is still kind enough to be concerned about people who may be having their own difficulties (and therefore bouncing checks to her).

FWIW, no one who was exccedingly embarrassed about bouncing a check would (a) fail to make it good, while (b) continuing to send their kid(s) to the gan.
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 1:23 pm    Post subject: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
somebody has too much time on their hands Shocked
am I understanding correctly that someone is mocking seraph's thread about bounced checks??
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 10 2008, 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Gan situation - checks bounced - WWYD
 
amother wrote:
This post is not serious (sorry for my wicked sense of humor) but I wanted to use this as an opportunity to show that every story has to sides and that it is always very easy to take sides with any OP, instead of looking at the other side of the coin as well.
Thanks so much for this. Some of us bothered to answer you.
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