McCain or Obama POLL

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I know that this is not going to be scientific but I wanted to run a poll on who you are voting for. You can do this anonymously. Im just curious to see. I know I am going to be wringing my hands going into this election.

Posted: Sun, Oct 12 2008, 1:41 pm Post subject: re: McCain or Obama POLL

There needs to be another box to check... I don't want to vote for either canidate... but I am definatly decided and voting.

There was an interesting news story last night... about someone apoligizing that on the votor panflit Obamas name was spelled Osama... enough said.

But I am not convinced on McCain either....mainly cause of his running mate. I think she needs more experience on a larger scale.

That is why again this year I will be voting for the canidate that serves me best... Mickey Mouse. Either that or Lucy from peanuts... I feel as my vote doesn't really count anyways the last couple elections told me that. The person with the popular vote didn't win.
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Posted: Mon, Oct 13 2008, 8:20 am Post subject: re: McCain or Obama POLL

Not voting. I don't think it really makes a difference at this point. Of all the people in this country..these are our options?? It must be the end.

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Posted: Mon, Oct 13 2008, 8:32 am Post subject: re: McCain or Obama POLL

Now there is ? on if Obama was actually born in the U.S.. Obama's grandmother was recorded saying that she was in the birthing room in Kenya when he was born..... I dunno if this is fact but it was on INN w/ Tamar Yonah.

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I'll just keep my head in a book till this is all over lol

Posted: Mon, Oct 13 2008, 8:45 am Post subject: re: McCain or Obama POLL

I hate to break it to you but there is no such thing as "not voting". A non-vote is a vote for the majority. Voting for someone isn't like marrying them -- even if you think one candidate is the lesser of 2 evils (NOT my opinion, but it might be yours), you still have a choice to make. My guy is going to lose, but I'll be voting anyway, just in the unlikely event that there are more lazy or annoyed people on the other side! Wink

Posted: Mon, Oct 13 2008, 11:27 am Post subject: re: McCain or Obama POLL

first of all, everyone must vote - it's on obligation you have as a US citizen.

second of all, who ever is interested in voting for Obama, I have a question for you. Why are you voting for someone who can not answer a question. whenever obama is aked a question he talks (well) about something that has nothing to do or does not answer the question. his other issue is he's always bashing -people who bash dont get things done. the thing about mccain is - he is honest so he doesnt say there wont be problems anymore and everyone will have money - which is the dumbest thing someone can say because the world will never be perfect. but what would you rather a president who will try his best or a president that will just bash and talk sweetly.

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Posted: Mon, Oct 13 2008, 11:35 am Post subject: re: McCain or Obama POLL

Thanks, Small Bean! Thumbs Up

Unfortunately no one will listen to because most people want style over substance.

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Posted: Mon, Oct 13 2008, 11:37 am Post subject: Re: re: McCain or Obama POLL

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Posted: Mon, Oct 13 2008, 11:53 am Post subject:

The place of Obama's birth is irrelevant when it comes to his eligibility. Even if Obama was born in Kenya, is would have no effect on his eligibility for the presidency. (It should be noted that McCain was born in Panama.)

Only a person who is born a US citizen can become president. A person who was naturalized at any age, even as a child, is ineligible.

Basically, there are two ways you can be a US citizen from birth. One is jus soli. This literally means "right by soil." What this means is if you were born on US soil, you are automatically a US citizen, regardless of the nationalities of your parents or their immigration status. If Obama was no born in the US, he would not be a US citizen from birth under jus soli.

However, you can also be a US citizen under jus sanguis, which literally means "right by blood." If either of your parents are a US citizen, you are automatically one, regardless of where in the world you were born. (Jus sanguis is what allows the Israeli-born children of American olim to claim US citizenship.)

One can be a US citizen for both reasons. As the child of American parents and because I was born in NY, I have a right to US citizenship under both jus sanguis and jus soli.

Because Obama's mother is American (I don't know what his father' immigration status was when he was born, but for the purposes of my point, it is irrelevant) Obama was a US citizen from BRITH, regardless of whether he was born in Hawaii, Kenya or on the Space Station.

Posted: Mon, Oct 13 2008, 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: re: McCain or Obama POLL

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Posted: Mon, Oct 13 2008, 12:26 pm Post subject: re: McCain or Obama POLL

first of all I did listen to the debate. and I will when I have time show you the questions and answers obama gave. second of all when I say bash I dont mean the other candidate because thats part of the election I mean what happened in the past. obama is always going back to what prior presidents did and bashing them. we all know bush made way to big of a deficit. the fact is that obama claims he is going to help everyone out economically by helping to pay for college etc but does not plan on raising taxes. does that make sense when he is so busy saying how bad bush was for the national deficit. there are 2 ways to get rid of the deficit either cut what the govt is giving out to lower income families or raise taxes. obama does not plan on doing that. anyone who has any sort of understanding on whats going on in the market sees downfalls to both mccain and obama. but I work in a hedgefund and I manage a big portfolio which leads me to many contacts in the financial world and we all dont see how obama will help us financially.

I do agree that mccain is not either a great candidate but when you put them together, if your smart you will see obama is not the answer.

when they were asked at the end of the debate what DONT you know. Obama basically said what he does know. and spoke about his wife.... which had nothing to do.

anyhow I dont have time to go into this in full detail but when I do I will write it out.

Posted: Mon, Oct 13 2008, 12:41 pm Post subject: re: McCain or Obama POLL

Obama dosnt beat around the bush. he also says that things wont change over night, and that even 2 years is cutting it short, while McCain makes it sound like hes gonna just put a bandaid on the booboo and it will all be better. hes 30 years plus younger than Obama, hes gonna see things a different way. I personally think he dosnt look well, and is not fit to be president.