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Posted: Sun, Sep 17 2006, 8:57 pm Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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Motek, I totally agree it's Pathetic.
I'll give you an example. I spent a few days in a bungalow colony with a very mixed crowd. I was so shocked to find out that some of these women were actually Chassidic when their husbands wore shtreimels on Shabbos. There was no other way I could tell. And they said that they consider themselves Chassidish.
Of course there are all different types of Chassidus and Chassidim and I've come across many who's whole lifestyle is pure Chassidus and so beautiful. That's actually what I wrote in my previous post that there are Chassidim who can be described by their Chassidish Lifestyle, Behavior and their way of dress and then there are Chassidim that can be defined basically by superficial things.
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| Just noticed this thread: I would definte a Chassidish woman as someone who follows the Chassidishe minhagim and who goes by a certain Rebbe.
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Posted: Tue, Sep 19 2006, 11:02 am Post subject: Re: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| Blossom wrote: | Motek, I totally agree it's Pathetic.
I'll give you an example. I spent a few days in a bungalow colony with a very mixed crowd. I was so shocked to find out that some of these women were actually Chassidic when their husbands wore shtreimels on Shabbos. There was no other way I could tell. And they said that they consider themselves Chassidish.
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Posted: Tue, Sep 19 2006, 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| Mommy912 wrote: | So can a litvak be a chossid  |
in the original sense of the word, which is simply "a pious person", as in "lo am ho-oretz chossid", absolutely.
or by being "born again", so to speak. most born-again chassidim are Lubavitcher but there are exceptions.
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Posted: Sun, Jun 17 2007, 11:03 am Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| arita - you might find this thread interesting
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Posted: Tue, Jun 19 2007, 10:39 am Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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Thanks
To me a chassidishe woman is someone who is just so in love with her role as a Jewish wife and mother. To me as someone who is somewhat yeshivish, that is wonderful! To me chassidism does not preclude the supremacy of Torah, but the dveykus to Hashem that we get from doing mitzvos . A chassidishe woman sees it as her avodas Hashem to help her family enjoy learning Torah and doing mitzvos. Not that litvish don't , but the Taam is different with a chassidishe lady. My motto is "Eyzehu Chacham Halomed Mikol Haadam". _________________ wife and mom to a great family. I love anything creative.
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Posted: Sun, Jan 27 2008, 10:38 am Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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Someone brought this thread to my attention to get my take on it, I suppose.
I'm not too good at definitions. I can just tell you my story.
I was brought up in a fairly modern American family. We made Aliya in 1971 and I went to Chorev, which was a school modeled on the hashkafa of Rav Shamshon Refael Hirsh. We had Chareidim and also more modern girls in the school, as well as different kinds of teachers. So, I was not Chareidi, by any means. At the ripe old age of 31 I met my Bashert. Turns out he was/is an Amshinover Chossid and also a descendant of R' Duvid'l MiLelov. We married 15 years ago and I guess, since then, I have been an Amshinov Chossid.
How is my life different from my former life? Well, my husband goes to the rebbe for Yom Tov. At first I had a very difficult time with this, as Chagim were "family time" in my mind. So, now, for Rosh Hashana we rent an apartment in Bayit Vegan so that we can be together. Yom Kippur I am home with my girls and my husband goes with the boys to the rebbe. Shavuos is another chag that he must be at the rebbe, so we work something out.
Another thing - my husband is very, very connected to Kivrei Tsaddikim. He goes to daven at Meron alot. He also goes to the previous rebbe's kever to daven. He also runs to his parents' kevarim on Yom Kippur Koton (whenever he can). Davening by kevorim is a big thing for him (and now, for me as well). Last week we took our kids out of school and drove up to Meron to daven (the day of Parshat Haman).
I have so much respect and admiration for the Amshinovers that I know. Mostly I am close with the rebbe's family members (mother, sister, wife and daughters). Totally humble, warm, down to earth, accepting of me and my opinions, special people. Their holiness is written all over them. I feel totally comfortable in their midst.
For me, though, what defines me as a chassidish woman is my unequivical willingness to do whatever the rebbe says. He doesn't tell us how to run our lives. He only answers questions when he's asked. But, if we ask and he answers we always, always listen. And it's not always easy. So, people here may criticize me for not sounding like a Chassidish woman (because I drive or don't know what a "shpitzel" is), but, frankly, I think I am as Chassidish or more Chassidish than anyone who keeps all the outer trappings. I truly believe in the holiness of my rebbe and am willing to go to the end of the world to do what he says.
If I think of anything else I will post again.
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Posted: Sun, Jan 27 2008, 10:48 am Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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I'm back.
For the record, we are completely Chareidi (lest anyone suspect that we are "modern" Chassidish). My boys are in cheder and my girls in Beis Ya'akov. I, the girl who grew up watching tv and movies, married a man who has NEVER watched a movie in his life. Now, that's refreshing
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Posted: Sun, Jan 27 2008, 11:08 am Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| Quote: | | For me, though, what defines me as a chassidish woman is my unequivical willingness to do whatever the rebbe says. He doesn't tell us how to run our lives. He only answers questions when he's asked. But, if we ask and he answers we always, always listen. And it's not always easy. So, people here may criticize me for not sounding like a Chassidish woman (because I drive or don't know what a "shpitzel" is), but, frankly, I think I am as Chassidish or more Chassidish than anyone who keeps all the outer trappings. I truly believe in the holiness of my rebbe and am willing to go to the end of the world to do what he says. |
Beautiful post, ChossidMom! And much admiration from me!  _________________ The Chanukah licht transcends all.
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Posted: Sun, Jan 27 2008, 11:43 am Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| Quote: | | For me, though, what defines me as a chassidish woman is my unequivical willingness to do whatever the rebbe says. |
ChossidMom, I LOVE this. and it is THE definition of a chassid/a. thank you. _________________ Life is not about who you can stand on top of, but who you can lift up!
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| Tefila wrote: | | Lubavitch utilizes technology to share the Torah with the world....the other Chassidim do not.... I even wonder if they use the computer! | Is that such a bad thing? I don't think so. I admire every person that doesn't use a computer at all. Personally, I will not allow a computer with Internet access in my house. I'm on a phone now, and I know even that is not ideal. For me, that defines being a chassidish women. Trying to keep myself Pure. I know I am not Perfect but at least I'm trying.
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Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2012, 2:02 pm Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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Breslov also does it. _________________
"You will have many many children and make successful shidduchim beh", rebbetzin Esther Jungreis
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Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2012, 2:04 pm Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| Zehava- check the thread date before digging it up. That thread is 4 years old.
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| Zehava wrote: | | Tefila wrote: | | Lubavitch utilizes technology to share the Torah with the world....the other Chassidim do not.... I even wonder if they use the computer! | Is that such a bad thing? I don't think so. I admire every person that doesn't use a computer at all. Personally, I will not allow a computer with Internet access in my house. I'm on a phone now, and I know even that is not ideal. For me, that defines being a chassidish women. Trying to keep myself Pure. I know I am not Perfect but at least I'm trying. |
What a buncha hooey. You won't bring internet into your house, and that makes you pure? Never mind your phone. Speaking of which, you're still here, so that hasnt changed much. Does chasidish mean pure to you? Does that mean that other groups are not pure? Does having internet make one unpure?
I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say. _________________ "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things!!" - Steven Tyler

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Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2012, 2:07 pm Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| Oh sorry I didnt realize
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Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2012, 2:14 pm Post subject: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| Did I say I am pure? I said I am trying to keep myself pure. Definitely not having an Internet connection in the house makes it a bit easier. No I am not Perfect and that's why I am still on the phone chatting here. That's what being chassidish means to me, like someone said in a different thread, making gedarim. I am not here to say who is pure and who's not . I'm speaking for myself that's all. I was trying to make a point that not using a computer is a goOd thing not a bad one
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Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2012, 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| Tehilla wrote: | | Quote: | | For me, though, what defines me as a chassidish woman is my unequivical willingness to do whatever the rebbe says. |
ChossidMom, I LOVE this. and it is THE definition of a chassid/a. thank you. | I agree _________________ Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional. (I haven't finished growing up yet; I'm still a work in progress - until 120!)
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Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2012, 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| Zehava wrote: | | Did I say I am pure? I said I am trying to keep myself pure. Definitely not having an Internet connection in the house makes it a bit easier. No I am not Perfect and that's why I am still on the phone chatting here. That's what being chassidish means to me, like someone said in a different thread, making gedarim. I am not here to say who is pure and who's not . I'm speaking for myself that's all. I was trying to make a point that not using a computer is a goOd thing not a bad one |
There is absolutely no difference in having Internet connection at home or on your phone. If you have access, no matter how you get it, you are exposed to all the Internet has to offer. I fail to see your logic.
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Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2012, 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: re: How would you define/describe a Chassidic Woman? |
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| Maya wrote: | | Zehava wrote: | | Did I say I am pure? I said I am trying to keep myself pure. Definitely not having an Internet connection in the house makes it a bit easier. No I am not Perfect and that's why I am still on the phone chatting here. That's what being chassidish means to me, like someone said in a different thread, making gedarim. I am not here to say who is pure and who's not . I'm speaking for myself that's all. I was trying to make a point that not using a computer is a goOd thing not a bad one |
There is absolutely no difference in having Internet connection at home or on your phone. If you have access, no matter how you get it, you are exposed to all the Internet has to offer. I fail to see your logic. | and I believe that using a computer and/or internet can be a good thing or a bad one, all depending on what it's being used for.
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| grin wrote: | | Maya wrote: | | Zehava wrote: | | Did I say I am pure? I said I am trying to keep myself pure. Definitely not having an Internet connection in the house makes it a bit easier. No I am not Perfect and that's why I am still on the phone chatting here. That's what being chassidish means to me, like someone said in a different thread, making gedarim. I am not here to say who is pure and who's not . I'm speaking for myself that's all. I was trying to make a point that not using a computer is a goOd thing not a bad one |
There is absolutely no difference in having Internet connection at home or on your phone. If you have access, no matter how you get it, you are exposed to all the Internet has to offer. I fail to see your logic. | and I believe that using a computer and/or internet can be a good thing or a bad one, all depending on what it's being used for. |
And I totally agree with you on that. I took issue with the point being made that having internet on a phone is kosher, while having it on a computer is "impure."
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