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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 24 2008, 4:59 pm    Post subject: Sleep Training
 
someone out there have mercy on an exhausted mom, please!

my 4 month old wakes up every 2-3 hours all nite. I am sick and falling off my face! I need a concrete plan to train him to sleep longer periods of time at nite. (my toddler trained himself at a very young age bh! I never realized how spoiled I was!) I know many women have suggested reading various books on the subject, but I am so sick, even a walk to the library is too much for me right now, and I'm not going to get better until I can sleep for more than 3 hours without being interrupted.

so if someone wants to do a chessed; can u give me some ideas, or write out the method in those famous books?
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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 24 2008, 5:27 pm    Post subject: re: Sleep Training
 
this method comes from the moms on call book (momsoncall.org) but your baby may be a little old for it,

what you need:
swaddle blankets (I like the aden and anais they are lightweight and huge - adenandanais.com)
sound machine or radio

what you do:
feed baby at 6:00
do not let baby sleep longer then an hour at this point untill bed time, do not feed baby until bed time feeding
8:30 give baby bath - every night!
9:00 feed baby well - even though I nursed, I gave dd an 8 oz. bottle of formula at this point
swaddle baby, put on white noise, put baby in crib.
when baby wakes up, push off feeding her for about 15 min, stretching it every night.

the book says that babies need 3 days to get used to something. they also have a pdf book you could buy and download for ages 6-24 months which may have more practical solutions for an older baby.
if you are really desperate, they do phone consultations for $150, then they are on call for you whenever you need them.

good luck!
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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 24 2008, 5:30 pm    Post subject: re: Sleep Training
 
thank u so much for your response, I am going to give it a shot today!
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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 24 2008, 7:41 pm    Post subject: re: Sleep Training
 
my daughter also started waking every few hours when she was a few months (previously she had slept 6 hours straight!). I would just feed her every 3 hours and be exhausted. now I know she doesnt need to eat that often, so when she wakes up,I just put her right back to sleep (bH shes very attached to blankies and teddy bears so if I give one to her she goes right back to bed). since shes been going back to bed I assume she wasnt waking up because she was hungry and ive been able to push off feeding for 8 hrs! she still gets up a few times though, but bH every night it gets better and better.
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PostPosted: Fri, Jul 25 2008, 9:57 am    Post subject: Re: re: Sleep Training
 
soldat wrote:
this method comes from the moms on call book (momsoncall.org) but your baby may be a little old for it,
what you need:
swaddle blankets (I like the aden and anais they are lightweight and huge - adenandanais.com)
sound machine or radio

what you do:
feed baby at 6:00
do not let baby sleep longer then an hour at this point untill bed time, do not feed baby until bed time feeding
8:30 give baby bath - every night!
9:00 feed baby well - even though I nursed, I gave dd an 8 oz. bottle of formula at this point
swaddle baby, put on white noise, put baby in crib.
when baby wakes up, push off feeding her for about 15 min, stretching it every night.

the book says that babies need 3 days to get used to something. they also have a pdf book you could buy and download for ages 6-24 months which may have more practical solutions for an older baby.
if you are really desperate, they do phone consultations for $150, then they are on call for you whenever you need them.

good luck!


At what ages ideally are you supposed to start this? What about naps during the day?
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 27 2008, 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: re: Sleep Training
 
soldat wrote:
9:00 feed baby well - even though I nursed, I gave dd an 8 oz. bottle of formula at this point
swaddle baby, put on white noise, put baby in crib.


Sorry I don't agree here, a baby and young child (until age 5-6) needs to go to sleep for the night between 6-8pm or they get overtired and will not sleep as well.
Twizzlers - how is your baby's daytime routine and sleeping? That is the first thing you need to work on, get your baby on a four hour feeding schedule and have the active period after eating then don't let your baby sleep more than 2 hours at a time during the day.
I go with the baby whisperer and recommend her books, when you're feeling better and with more energy!
My schedule at that age has always been...
7am feed (then diaper change and play)
9am nap (1 1/2 - 2 hours)
11am feed
1pm nap (1 1/2 - 2 hours)
3pm feed
5pm nap (45 mins - this will be the first nap to be dropped as the baby gets older)
6pm first cluster feed (cluster feeding before bed tanks them up for the night to help them go longer)
6.30pm bath
7pm second cluster feed followed by bedtime- this is the only feed that is straight before bed teaching them that it's now night and time to sleep longer
11pm dream feed - you pick your baby up and feed, without waking and then place her straight back in the crib without burping or a diaper change

Always allow 20 mins to put your baby to sleep, make the room dark, swaddle, get the baby relaxed with soft music or singing, a little light rocking and then place in crib AWAKE, if the baby cries, pick her up hold her until the crying stops and place her all the way back down (even if she cries on the way down put her all the way down and let go before you pick her up again - and when you're holding her, put her down as soon as she stops crying) repeat this until she falls asleep. Do this each time she wakes up (At 4 months a baby's tummy is big enough that it can go 8 hours at night if eating well during the day) and do this for daytime naps and nightime sleep, and if you're consistant your baby will learn to self soothe within a few days.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 27 2008, 3:44 am    Post subject: re: Sleep Training
 
Can you take the baby into bed with you? I might get slammed for suggesting this, but maybe if you took a long nap together during the day or got two good nights of sleep you would have the energy/focus to think of a good schedule for you guys and a good way to slowly implement it. Also you would figure out if the sleeping issue is a real hunger thing like a growth spurt or a comfort issue. My baby is nine months and he goes through stages of sleeping through the night but when he doesn't he need to eat and has a good gain that month.
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