Savage Calls Autistic Children 'Brats-

Silver Member Joined: Jan 20 2008 Posts: 581

Absolutely not! Autism is 100% real. I have a cousin with an autistic son and a friend who works as a service coordinator for a boy's residential home for autistic kids.

There is nothing phony about it. I can't believe he is so ignorant about an issue that is sweeping our nation. He must live a very insulated life to not come into contact with authentic autistic people.

Woah. In France he could be out for this.
I remember some guy made a joke on Nazism, he never came back on the radio... same for another one... and same for the tv guy who joked on the "mongols", out of business... and what they all said was pretty tame compared to this! Shocked

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LOL, they'll never give up, anything to get rid of him.

I was listening to that show, actually. He was saying that autism is way overdiagnosed and we all know that's true. He said that lots of kids are diagnosed with autism when really they're just the result of poor parenting.
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my son has PDD, which isn't autism but is related. If his father spoke to him like this, I think his symptoms might be aggravated actually. Such children are more sensitive and retreat further into themselves when faced with hostility.

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Autism is way overdiagnosed. That's the point. That's what he was saying. They took a few sentences out of his show to make him look like a bad guy. People want him off the air and they're trying hard.

Just last week my pediatrician had the chutzpah to mention that my 20 month old has an overly large head which is a sign of autism. Come on. As his pediatrician he should know that the child was crawling by 4 months, walking by 10 months, and talking at 13 months. Autism should not even have entered his mind, never mind came out of his mouth.

As far as freedom of speech goes, there's a double-standard in this country, so you just have to fight for your own rights.

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I have yet to meet someone diagnosed with autism who doesn't pretty clearly seem to have autism. From what I've seen it's not like ADD or ADHD, which are real disorders that many people actually have but are also wildly overdiagnosed. But I haven't been in the states for a while so I don't know how it is now. One out of 150 with autism is more than I would have expected, but IMO the high number is probably due to an actual rise in the number of people with autism and not overdiagnosis.

99% misdiagnosed, if he said that, is clearly wrong. There might be a small grain of truth in what he's saying about the tendency in America to label kids as disabled instead of worrying about whether or not the parents and/or teachers could be the problem. But I don't think that's an issue with autism, autism is a disorder with very noticable symptoms. Autistic behavior isn't something kids would want to do on their own, and I can't imagine any child would be able to (or want to) act autistic if they weren't.

Posted: Mon, Jul 21 2008, 11:59 am Post subject:

I am an autism pro. They are part of my life for many years. I can spot an austisic kid the first second. No way are they misdiagnosed at all. It's hard to get a full diagnosis for autism unless it's a strong case. The mild cases are diagnosed as pdd.
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I'm curious how the radio station will be handling this.... will he have to publicly apologize, or will he be removed?

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How sad this is. As someone who has worked with the autistic population for a number of years, I am shocked and furious by the blatant statements Savage made on his show. Watching parents suffer year after year as their children make minimal progress in communication and other areas that are lacking, and with all the studies that point to many different factors contributed to Autism, none of which are parental modes of discipline, I feel that whoever condones Savage and his remarks, does not know what Autism really is. And lastly, unfortunately autism is NOT overrated. There has been a huge increase in children born with Autism in the last 10-15 years. Experts are trying to link the boom with enviornmental exposures to harmful rays or chemicals, neurological differences, etc. To dare say that parents are at fault would be tantamount to blaming a parent if a child r"l was diagnosed with Cancer, because they weren't involved parents. How sad.
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Of course people want him off the air. He is a menuval.

GR, I can't believe you can listen to him. I like a number of conservative talk radio hosts, but I cannot listen to him. He makes me ill.

And yes, he is Jewish. Michael Alan Weiner.
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I think blabbermouths on the radio are given way too much latitude to say whatever pops into their annoying heads. I don't listen to talk radio because it's not my thing, but when I hear what some of these jerks say I just can't imagine wasting my time with them. If I want to hear someone's inane opinions, I just listen to my own mutterings. Music is where it's at, around here.

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You don't need to agree with everything a talk-show host says to like him.

The essential point here is not about whether or not autism is overdiagnosed, but about freedom of speech rights. I've listened to Savage for quite a number of years so I know that not only is he an advocate for autistic children, but for handicapped people in general. To say that he is heartless, ignorant, cold-hearted, is completely off-base. He grew up with a handicapped family member and the once or twice he has ever spoken about it would teach us all about what it really means to care for another person, especially one physically or mentally disabled. He screamed about a certain someone on TV whose entire show revolved around making fun of autistic and mentally handicapped adults. He is a scientist, not ignorant about these matters in the least bit. You don't need to agree with him about autism though, everyone will follow their own professional and the advice they think is best. But the point here is not about the subject of autism, but about freedom of speech rights being taken away.
Media Matters is funded by ________. Find out and you'll know why they want him off the air. Extreme left-wing liberals and CAIR have some thing in common.

And what was that that Jesse Jackson said the other day? Anyone see him going anytime soon? Here in America the left-wing wants freedom of speech for some. Only for themselves.

Crayon, he is the only one whose show is the slightest bit interesting. The other conservative talk show hosts just blabber along and say nothing. Besides, if you really listened to his show, you would see that he is someone to be admired. He talks spirituality on his show quite a bit, trying to lift the people to a higher spiritual level and not be stuck in the immoral garbage that surrounds us these days. He praises orthodox Judaism quite a bit on a regular basis.
Anyhow, I don't listen to his show much anymore, but I'm interested in hearing it tonight. I'm sure it will be quite entertaining.