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I have a feeling my son has ADHD.
But Im not sure,if he has it he has it mild.My dh thinks he just has discipline probleme.
Im afraid to go to the doctor bc they are very quick on stamping a probleme on a person.
Does somebody know more ditails about ADHD and is there a vitamine I can try to give him to help ?
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| Posted: Tue, Apr 08 2008, 3:38 pm Post subject: re: Help ADHD |
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| Talk to the member ADAPT and log onto the CHADD website, g'luck.
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| Posted: Tue, Apr 08 2008, 3:52 pm Post subject: re: Help ADHD |
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| Have you got the CHADD website?
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| Posted: Tue, Apr 08 2008, 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: re: Help ADHD |
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| timeout wrote: | | Talk to the member ADAPT and log onto the CHADD website, g'luck. |
Is it a jewish organisation?
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| Posted: Tue, Apr 08 2008, 4:13 pm Post subject: re: Help ADHD |
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| Does Omega vit.(fish oil) help?
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| Posted: Tue, Apr 08 2008, 7:16 pm Post subject: re: Help ADHD |
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I'd be glad to answer any questions. My contact information is in my profile.
ADAPT is a frum organization, CHADD is a national organization.
ADAPT coordinates the Brooklyn-Area chapter of CHADD, which is sensitive to the Jewish community.
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| I just did a college paper on ADHD if you want I'll email it to you. its all the basic info of ADHD, symptoms, types, treatment, etc.
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| Posted: Wed, May 07 2008, 2:43 pm Post subject: re: Help ADHD |
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I just want to let you all know,I tried the diet with out sugar/food-colouring etc. and I have to say, I see a little change in my son.
I wanted to make sure it was that ,so I gave him for few days all the "dont "food again.I saw a different,in these days.
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| u could send me a link to adapt site and more info on it son might have it
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hi! I'm sorry to hear your concern. I might be able to help since I'm in the field of special ed for many years. I have loads of experience with all fields of the DD population.
taking something natural can never hurt. there is some kind of new omega on the market which is supposed to be GREAT for this. if you're interested, I can get the info for u. also how old is ur child? kids under the age of 5 are usually not diagnosed- they could show signs of though. I hope this helps
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| craisin wrote: | | taking something natural can never hurt. there is some kind of new omega on the market which is supposed to be GREAT for this. |
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! Ahem. I'm sorry to butt in and yell at that, but I had to say something.
Omega-3 is not a vitamin, it is a GROUP of fatty acids and not a single chemical. There are three main omega-3 components/types, DHA, EPA, and ALA. DHA and EPA are found only from live sources, in other words fish. ALA is found in various plants.
There is a company that is pushing omega-3 oil made from plants [marva/sage is on of the plants this oil is found in] but it has been proven in studies that ALA is NOT effective for ADD or ADHD or depression/mood disorders.
What you want to treat ADD or other attention/mood disorders with is ONLY omega 3 from fish oil. Buy a good quality brand and try to maintain the low sugar/no colors or preservatives diet as much as possible.
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If you suspect anything, get him evaluated by a specialist, NOT a pediatrician. Evaluation is key- ADHD is not a diagnosis that you can just test for. By getting evaluated, you can find out for real, rather than a doctor just saying "yeah, he's off the wall, let's put him on Ritalin". I echo the above comments that you should contact CHADD. Also, there is a frum referral organization called Relief, the link is http://www.reliefhelp.org/
Even if it's only mild, you want to get him the help he'll need to keep himself organized and on top of things.
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[quote="Israeli Mother"] | craisin wrote: | | taking something natural can never hurt. there is some kind of new omega on the market which is supposed to be GREAT for this. |
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! Ahem. I'm sorry to butt in and yell at that, but I had to say something.
GROUP of fatty acids and not a single chemical. There are three main omega-3 components/types, DHA, EPA, and ALA. DHA and EPA are found only from live sources, in other words fish. ALA is found in various plants.
There is a company that is pushing omega-3 oil made from plants [marva/sage is on of the plants this oil is found in] but it has been proven in studies that ALA is NOT effective for ADD or ADHD
well ... I do have to tell u that ppl. are seeing AMAZING results when using this new product. ppl swear by it! how can u say that? did u ever try it?
one of my students are currently taking it, & were seeing great results b'h. especially for the hyperactivity part.
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taking something natural can never hurt. |
NO NO NO NO!!! again, but with a different gripe than the others. (Sorry craisin, we're not persecuting you, just trying to get some truth clarified.)
This has got to be our generation's most popular misconception.
2 reasons why taking something natural can hurt sometimes, and you need to do more research instead of saying "Natural! Perfect!":
1) Not everything natural is good for you. Not everything natural that is good for someone else is good for you, either. Tobacco is natural, so is cyanide, and poison ivy. Many natural products can have side effects that are more dangerous than conventional treatments. In addition, many natural products can interfere with medical treatments or conditions in ways that the consumer may not be aware of. They should be handled with care because it is not true that they "can never hurt."
2) Many natural treatments don't really help, help some people but might not help you, or have only a placebo effect. You might think there's nothing to lose by trying, so what if it doesn't work - but if there is a real condition that needs real treatment, and you're not getting the real treatment because you're chasing after "natural" remedies, then the real condition will either deteriorate or simply continue to do whatever damage it already started.
Now, in OP's case she may indeed have nothing to lose by trying natural remedies. If the kid's problem is mild enough that he's not at much risk, and she is going to try something natural in consultation with a pediatrician, doing research to make sure the treatment is appropriate for her situation, then by all means go ahead. But I couldn't just sit here and let the myth that "natural can never hurt" be spread around here without objecting.
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| The elimination of food additives is what helped out my dd the most. she still has her moments but NOTHING like when she has things like artificial colors. We always know when she sneaks something at school because her behavior is off the charts for a few days. The feingold method is what we (loosely) go by but it's expensive to buy the materials but you can find a little info out there about it. It help us A LOT.
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I have been formally diagnosed by a psychiatrist with ADHD.
No diet worked for me: I have used strettera and Ritalin.
5% of the population has ADHD.
I bet a lot of people you know have it, too.
If your child does have it, and you choose to only give him vitamins, he will develop a low self-esteem. Why should he be labeled as being a discipline problem? He will feel terrible. Better to be on medication than to be labeled as a discipline problem.
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Read this, please please please. It's been recommended by other posters on this site.
http://www.amazon.com/Healing-.....amp;sr=8-1
We used diet, vitamins, and homeopathy and our children did not need medication B"H.
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| Israeli Mother wrote: | | craisin wrote: | | taking something natural can never hurt. there is some kind of new omega on the market which is supposed to be GREAT for this. |
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! Ahem. I'm sorry to butt in and yell at that, but I had to say something.
Omega-3 is not a vitamin, it is a GROUP of fatty acids and not a single chemical. There are three main omega-3 components/types, DHA, EPA, and ALA. DHA and EPA are found only from live sources, in other words fish. ALA is found in various plants.
There is a company that is pushing omega-3 oil made from plants [marva/sage is on of the plants this oil is found in] but it has been proven in studies that ALA is NOT effective for ADD or ADHD or depression/mood disorders.
What you want to treat ADD or other attention/mood disorders with is ONLY omega 3 from fish oil. Buy a good quality brand and try to maintain the low sugar/no colors or preservatives diet as much as possible. |
You are correct. My DH looked into this last year because one of his friends was selling the sage Omega and singing its praises. It's really a scam.
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[quote="Israeli Mother]There is a company that is pushing omega-3 oil made from plants [marva/sage is on of the plants this oil is found in] but it has been proven in studies that ALA is NOT effective for ADD or ADHD[/quote]
| amother wrote: | | well ... I do have to tell u that ppl. are seeing AMAZING results when using this new product. ppl swear by it! how can u say that? did u ever try it? |
I am a practicing naturopathic physician. I also read the numerous studies done on the various types of omega 3 fatty acids. The science of how all of these things work in the body is well known. Extensive controlled studies in human subjects have now all consistently confirmed the very limited metabolic conversion of dietary ALA into DHA, the final end product of the sequential pathway. I think it is something like less than 5% is converted, making it basically useless for use in treatment of ADD and mood disorders.
I am sorry if you are one of the distributors or supporters of this product, but it is useless in this case.
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| seeker wrote: | | 1) Not everything natural is good for you. Not everything natural that is good for someone else is good for you, either. ... Many natural products can have side effects that are more dangerous than conventional treatments. In addition, many natural products can interfere with medical treatments or conditions in ways that the consumer may not be aware of. They should be handled with care because it is not true that they "can never hurt." |
This is not entirely accurate. In general, pharmaceutical medications have much worse and much more dangerous side effects than natural treatments, but ANY treatment that is not right for you can have adverse effects. You are correct that all things used as medication, whether pharmaceuticals or herbs or supplements, or even certain fruit juices for heaven's sakes can interfere with other medications/herbs/treatments. Even something as simple as grapefruit juice can ruin chemotherapy treatment and cause other meds to be ineffective. Yes, I am serious; grapefruit juice interferes with a lot of meds. And most MDs don't tell their patients these things.
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE MUST CONSULT A QUALIFIED NATUROPATHIC PHYSICIAN AND NOT JUST TAKE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT SOUNDS GOOD WITHOUT THE ADVICE OF A NATUROPATHIC PHYSICIAN WHOSE JOB IT IS TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT INTERACTS WITH WHAT AND WHAT IS RIGHT FOR YOU TO TAKE AND WHAT IS NOT.
| seeker wrote: | | 2) Many natural treatments don't really help, help some people but might not help you, or have only a placebo effect. You might think there's nothing to lose by trying, so what if it doesn't work - but if there is a real condition that needs real treatment, and you're not getting the real treatment because you're chasing after "natural" remedies, then the real condition will either deteriorate or simply continue to do whatever damage it already started. |
All properly prescribed natural treatments are as effective if not more so than pharmaceutical treatments. However, the key word here is *Prescribed* -- in other words by a qualified naturopath [ND]. I would agree with you, though, that people should not just assume that since their neighbor had a similar-sounding problem and took X or Y they should just run over to some store and buy some too because it may not be the same thing or have the same cause and your neighbor may not be taking other medications that you are taking that would make a difference in whether you could take whatever she took.
I can tell you from personal experience dealing with patients that many times when someone hears that Sara had such-and-such a problem and took X and Y and had great results they don't realize that their problem is not exactly the same at all and requires different treatment.
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