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| lets see if the authorites press charges/he gets convicted |
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 9:38 am Post subject: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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If he is proven to have broken federal law he should resign. Otherwise I don't really care. _________________ The ability to Google does not make you learned.
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 9:51 am Post subject: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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| For someone who always stood behind this "mr clean" persona he created for himself he should be ashamed and resign. What is it with these stupid politicians risking it all for "a little fun". Does no-one ever learn a lesson?
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 9:55 am Post subject: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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| AGINY, I always wonder the same thing. I think people who are attracted to, and successful in politics just feel that they are special and won't get caught. They are so powerful that if they want something, they go for it regardless of possible consequences. I think most political people do something unethical at some point, whether it involves affairs or call girls or what, but not all of them get caught. I felt this way when Clinton got caught with Monica.
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 10:12 am Post subject: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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| I think this decision will be made for him..If he resigns, he He won't decide to resign. He will be made to resign...
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 10:15 am Post subject: Re: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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| AGINY wrote: | | For someone who always stood behind this "mr clean" persona he created for himself he should be ashamed and resign. What is it with these stupid politicians risking it all for "a little fun". Does no-one ever learn a lesson? |
I think it goes a lot deeper than "having a little fun". People don't risk everything for a moment of enjoyment. They risk everything when they feel too pressured by the perfect image they've created and need to break out of it. It's kind of like a rebellion, almost.
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 10:21 am Post subject: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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Yes, and so many of them do it...one after the other...over the cliff like lemmings!
My BIL worked for Gary Hart. Anyone remember him? He was going to be the only Democrat in 1984 who had a shot at beating Reagan, whose popularity was in the stratosphere...
Well, there were rumors he was cheating on his wife. "Follow me" he boldly told the press. Well, they followed him and caught him with a woman.
my BIL wrote his farewell speech...
There is something really suicidal, or thrill seeking, or danger craving about this kind of behavior. It complex or rather simplistic psychology...it is as if they get so stoned on their sense of power that they (subconsciously) really want to check and see if G-d is really there watching
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 10:47 am Post subject: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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Eisenhower had a long-term mistress and JFK had affairs left and right. I haven't heard anything about Honest Abe as a womanizer, but extramarital shenanigans seem to be the rule rather than the exception when it comes to men in politics, especially those in the highest offices.
What's most disappointing about Spitzer is not that he betrayed his wife, which is bad enough for a guy who had such a squeaky-clean image, but that he engaged in one of the very crimes he himself prosecuted and built his reputation on. had he simply "had an affair", well, it happens. Men fall out of love with their wives, or seek adventure in their middle years, or are tempted by someone who was in the right place at the right time. It's a sin but it's not a crime. But to engage a prostitute is something else entirely.
I just hope he didn't use the taxpayers' money. And if he hasn't resigned yet, he should, pronto.
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 11:08 am Post subject: Re: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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| louche wrote: | Eisenhower had a long-term mistress and JFK had affairs left and right. I haven't heard anything about Honest Abe as a womanizer, but extramarital shenanigans seem to be the rule rather than the exception when it comes to men in politics, especially those in the highest offices.
What's most disappointing about Spitzer is not that he betrayed his wife, which is bad enough for a guy who had such a squeaky-clean image, but that he engaged in one of the very crimes he himself prosecuted and built his reputation on. had he simply "had an affair", well, it happens. Men fall out of love with their wives, or seek adventure in their middle years, or are tempted by someone who was in the right place at the right time. It's a sin but it's not a crime. But to engage a prostitute is something else entirely.
I just hope he didn't use the taxpayers' money. And if he hasn't resigned yet, he should, pronto. | Honest Abe wasn't exactly a womanizer. Probably more of a manizer. Haven't you heard of Log Cabin Republicans? Anyway, lots of people in public office have had affairs. It's been long believed, but not spoken about, that George Bush Sr. had a long affair. McCain has had more than one. Clinton was unfaithful. So were Roosevelt and Eisenhower. I think there's just this ego thing involved in being in positions of power, whether it's government or business.
Either way, I don't care, unless major laws are broken or public money is used for shenanigans.
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 11:27 am Post subject: Re: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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| Clarissa wrote: |
Of course, in this case, it's an insult to our nation's capitol, as the question now exists as to why our governor didn't find Washington prostitutes appealing enough, and had to bring in his own. |
I just assumed that they were already good friends.
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 2:56 pm Post subject: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 3:05 pm Post subject: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 3:08 pm Post subject: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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| AFAIK he isn't being investigated on the state level... But yeah. He should resign if he broke any law.
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 3:28 pm Post subject: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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It's nobody's business as long as he's doing his job right.
Sure, he's a hypocrite, but so what? _________________ I have bursts of being a lady, but it doesn't last long.
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| I thought he resigned yesterday, but yeah, that's prob it for him .....
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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| louche wrote: | | had he simply "had an affair", well, it happens. Men fall out of love with their wives, or seek adventure in their middle years, or are tempted by someone who was in the right place at the right time. It's a sin but it's not a crime. But to engage a prostitute is something else entirely. |
Some would say the former (an affair) is worse. What do you mean by "simply" having an affair?
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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| Motek wrote: | | louche wrote: | | had he simply "had an affair", well, it happens. Men fall out of love with their wives, or seek adventure in their middle years, or are tempted by someone who was in the right place at the right time. It's a sin but it's not a crime. But to engage a prostitute is something else entirely. |
Some would say the former (an affair) is worse. What do you mean by "simply" having an affair?  |
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Posted: Tue, Mar 11 2008, 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: re: Should Spitzer resign? |
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| Hannah! wrote: | I also think that proven adulterers should resign. I think it is a horrible sin to hold up an adulterer (or anyone who committs an immoral act) as the best example that a government can offer its people.
| I know you used the word "proven," but if all adulterers resigned their posts, the halls of government would be so empty there would be wind whistling through the empty capitol buildings and cobwebs everywhere.
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