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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 6:43 pm Post subject: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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| Did you give your child/ren the vaccine? Why or why not?
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I didnt give my children the vaccine because in england it was not offered and because of that when I moved to israel I didnt give it but after my oldest daughter suffering from it quite badly I think I would give the vaccine now but my second daughter got chicken pox when she was three months old and im not sure if I can give her the vaccine or if she has built up an immunity to it already if she hasnt I would like her to have the injection as its a really horrible thing.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 7:34 pm Post subject: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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| No. All vaccines have possible side effects. For something as harmless as chicken pox I'm not exposing my kids. There are a lot of vaccines we are chosing to skip, like Hep B for example. I highly doubt our children will need to worry about a sexually transmitted disease.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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| amother wrote: | | No. All vaccines have possible side effects. For something as harmless as chicken pox I'm not exposing my kids. There are a lot of vaccines we are chosing to skip, like Hep B for example. I highly doubt our children will need to worry about a sexually transmitted disease. |
I'm really trying to be objective. My daughter is still young and I haven't decided whether to give the vaccine or not. But...aren't there possible side effects of having chicken pox as well? Or any of the other diseases? Another thing to keep in mind....I have HPV and am FFB. I'm sure my parents may have also thought that they had nothing to worry about a STD.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 8:41 pm Post subject: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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I personally am for the vaccine, but personal issues aside, I overheard my children's pediatrician talking to a mom who wanted to refuse the vaccine for her kids. he told her (quite strongly) that the health department really really advises it, and that if she refuses, he would have to report her- and then, if there was a case of chicken pox in the child's school, this unvaccinated child, whether exposed or not, would be mandated to leave school for a minimum of 3 months. and if there would be a secondary infection, then the child would be unable to return for 6 months. he said that he had a case like that last year and the boy's parents had to keep the child home for 6 months! needless to say, the woman opted for the vaccine.
not advising you for/against it but just something to be aware of...
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 8:58 pm Post subject: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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| drumjj wrote: | | but my second daughter got chicken pox when she was three months old and im not sure if I can give her the vaccine or if she has built up an immunity to it already if she hasnt I would like her to have the injection as its a really horrible thing. |
I heard that if a child gets the chicken pox under a year they don't really build up proper immunity so you probably would be able to give her the shot and she should have no side effect as she has some immunity and together she should be ok.
to the person who said for something so simple like chicken pox .....
I just want to tell you that I know of a child personally who died from an infection she got directly due to her chicken pox, so its not as simple as you or I might like to think it is.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 9:17 pm Post subject: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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| If your child has a healthy normal immune system I believe there is no reason to give this vaccine. Imokay- I don't know what you overheard but my pedi signed that I refused to give ds the vaccine.He did make me promise that if ds didn't get chicken pox by puberty that he would then get the vaccine because chicken pox for adolecents & adults is dangerous. Anyway my ds is in scholl just fine. As amatter of fact pox was going around his school big time. My ds had the most mild case which he caught from all the boys who had had the vaccine. He was not sent home at all except when he was contagious.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 9:26 pm Post subject: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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I weighed the pros and cons...
I delayed all the vaccines and had them split them up, so that a tiny little body wasn't being bombarded with 4 (!) vaccines at once.
I did give the chicken pox vaccine (after a year, I think) and will have my daughters get a booster before they reach child bearing age. I've read that sometimes it can wear off, and I don't want them to get the chicken pox while pregnant.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 9:31 pm Post subject: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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I gave my daughter the vaccine yrs ago. it is about 80% effective. She did get chicken pox this summer, but it was extremely mild. Now she is most likey fully immune. _________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits-Einstein
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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| amother wrote: | | No. All vaccines have possible side effects. For something as harmless as chicken pox I'm not exposing my kids. There are a lot of vaccines we are chosing to skip, like Hep B for example. I highly doubt our children will need to worry about a sexually transmitted disease. |
Hep B is a very serious disease. It is mandatory where I live because of the
large illegal immigrant population . My kids had no problem at all.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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| amother wrote: | | If your child has a healthy normal immune system I believe there is no reason to give this vaccine. Imokay- I don't know what you overheard but my pedi signed that I refused to give ds the vaccine.He did make me promise that if ds didn't get chicken pox by puberty that he would then get the vaccine because chicken pox for adolecents & adults is dangerous. Anyway my ds is in scholl just fine. As amatter of fact pox was going around his school big time. My ds had the most mild case which he caught from all the boys who had had the vaccine. He was not sent home at all except when he was contagious. |
amother, PLEASE PM me!
I wanted to opt out of several vaccines, but my son's school is pressuring me, and the Dr. refuses to give a note.
Which Dr. do you use? I'd really rather have my son get chicken pox than the vax. _________________
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Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2007, 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| If you do a search on this topic I've written a lot about what I think about this vaccine. It is a money maker for Merck pharmaceutical co. that was originally approved to prevent "money lost to the work force" when parents had to stay home with a "relatively benign illness". I was much more worried that my kids would get it later in life when chicken pox becomes more dangerous b/c the vaccine effectiveness declines over time (which incidentally is why the shingles vaccine - basically the same vaccine - has to have a booster every 5 years). And while yes, some kids get milder cases after they have been vaccinated, I've seen some kids with really bad cases too, esp. the longer it's been since they were vaccinated. Yes, even after 2 doses.
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Posted: Thu, Nov 29 2007, 8:02 am Post subject: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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Erm, Hep. B can be caught in eating in dirty dishes... if your child ever takes a trip to China, it's dangerous. I gave it to dd for that reason, I had it too and now that I'm a grown up and able to travel where I want, I'm happy about that!
Varicella I don't know what to do about it. We don't have 10, 20, 30 + years to see if it's really harmless like for other vaccines... I'm hesitating.
Indeed s-xually transmitted stuff is not needed for us but 40% of the people who catch Hep. B we don't know how they got it, except it was not s-xual!
(by the way, I asked about the papilloma virus vax, apparently there are more than 100 types of this virus, but only 4 are in the vax, and not even the most common, just those they managed to find a vax... the doctor told me it's worthless and potentially dangerous since it got out before the testing was finished, and of course we don't have any "step back" on the possible side effects - he was happy when I told him I'm just asking out of curiosity). _________________
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Posted: Thu, Nov 29 2007, 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| Hep B canNOT be caught from dirty dishes - it's a blood born disease. Maybe you are thinking of Hep A which can be a problem with food handlers - if they don't wash their hands after using the bathroom (it's fecal/oral transmission).
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Posted: Thu, Nov 29 2007, 11:03 am Post subject: re: Varicella (chickenpox) Vaccine |
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| As far as I know Hep B is only caught s-xually or from sharing needles if you are a drug addict. It could be in the past you could get it from a blood transfusion but now they test blood for this so it doesn't happen anymore.
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