Punishment for escapee's

Diamond Member Joined: Apr 30 2004 Posts: 4367

this morning my hubby and I were still fast asleep when my 6 yr old rushes in and says, the boys are gone we can't find them anywhere. the boys are almost 4 and 2 1/2 - she says I know we are not supposed to wake you up but I think its an emergency.
so I got up and rushed into clothes and went down the block- the front door was wid open too. I get to my mothers house, and her door was open too. so I go in and I find my mother having a conversation.
I went up to them and I said "did you ask permission to leave?"
and then I smacked each boy on their cheek.
but they are unrepentant. obviosly it had no impact on them cause in walmart they picked up and ran off too.
how in the worls can I punish them enough to get the point across?
oh I also put them in time out (after they ate breakfast)
then the older one took the spray from the kitchen sink and watered himself the floor the drawers cabinets- it was so wet it dripped intot he basement.

they really are good kids but why int he world would they do such not smart (I can't say stupid - cause they would repeat me) things?
and how can I impress upon them that these things are wrong?
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about leaving the house - maybe they are too young (the 21/2 yr. certainly is) to understand that it's wrong and you need to have a way of locking the front door that they can't open?

Because if you don't secure the door, you will NEVER be able to sleep peacefully!

so to answer your questions:

Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2005, 8:01 pm Post subject: re: punishment for escapee's

my cousins 4 yr old used to visit us w/o permission all the time finally her mother got a lock where she couln't reach.
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Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2005, 8:31 pm Post subject: re: punishment for escapee's

Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2005, 8:32 pm Post subject: re: punishment for escapee's

I'm confused u'r mother never said anything she thought this was normal Scratching Head

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Diamond Member Joined: Apr 30 2004 Posts: 4367

no- my mother was calling our cell phones and house phone but brilliant people that we are we had them all downstaris and did not here them ring. Embarassed

and motek very funny- 8) yup I remember that one- and they certainly are indepedant!
my hubby installed a chain today- high up so they can't get out- until they figure it out Rolling Eyes

so there is no way to have a balance huh? independant obedient free thinkers?

so any way to curb this independance?

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Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2005, 9:22 pm Post subject: re: punishment for escapee's

Micki I was no better sh don't tell my kids though. When I was 3yrs my parents went for a shabbos shloph in the living room/lounge where we were supposed to have been too. But I decided to take my dollly and my sister for a shabbos walk in the dolls stroller the doll went w/h my younger 2yr old sis in tow. B'H we didn't get too far b/c our 2 door way neighbor whose jewish asked where do u think u'r going? And when I informed her I was going for a shabbos walk she said no you're jollly well not!. And off she trotted me home w/h my doll and sibling in tow. Micki atleast in u'r case you had your 6yr old wake u up but in mine well I was the oldest so it was the neighbor who woke up my mortified parents. And the next day the lock on our front door changed wonder why

Silver Member Joined: Jun 06 2005 Posts: 624

My friend has a baby/toddler leash they sell them at toysrus. It is for kids who tend to run off. you could have them wear it when they go out with u for a while like in walmart.
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Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2005, 9:41 pm Post subject: re: punishment for escapee's

Mandy those r horrible things and funny I always promised myself I'd never ever use them. Well let me tell u never say never, since I did take my twins to the park myself and put on those horrible things which I said I would never do Rolling Eyes

. Since I was terrified of each one of them escaping in diff direction. It was quite a site let me tell u I got many a stare or glare rather. "Makes a good ad for harnesses right" I answered their stares w/h a smile. They must've thought I was triply nuts but as for me atleast I had a good laugh Twisted Evil

Diamond Member Joined: Apr 30 2004 Posts: 4367

I forgot to mention, my mother was also asleep and happened to go to the bathroom which overlooks the backyard. she looked out the window and saw 2 "malachim" the boys. they were wearing white tshirts.
she called out and asked them if mommy knows they are there. then she had them come in.

Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2005, 10:53 pm Post subject: re: punishment for escapee's

I put child locks on the front and back door knob to keep my 3 and 2 year old from escaping. Recently the 3 year old figured out how to remove hte child locks and can open teh door easily now. He is a very serious kid though adn would never run out, but he would open teh door and the 2 year old will run out. Well, before the baby was born we redid a lot of stuff around the house including updating child locks on cabinets, drawers, refridgerator, etc becuase I wanted to be sure the hosue was secure so I would have less to worry abotu when I was nursing the baby and the odler kids were wandering the hosue. When my 3 year old saw us putting all the locks around he asked me why we were doign it. So as not to insult him completely I told him that we are putting locks up for the new baby. Well when she was a few hours old the 3 yera old told her "you can't go into the refriderator". It was so cute. He is also the child lock policeman - he goes around the kitchen and makes sure all the locks are working (we have tot locks that can be open or shut) and he never takes the locks off the front door anymore.

Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2005, 4:04 pm Post subject:

I think every mom has such (scary & outrageous) stories! One of mine occured when my second was only a few weeks old. My older son, 2 at the time, pulled a chair to the door & unlocked the front door. I was busy nursing the baby in a bedroom & my (new) cleaning lady was supposed to be watching him. Well, she came to tell me that my son left the house (didn't bother following him?!) I dropped the baby and ran outside - no shoes ... he was at the corner of my block. When I asked him where he was going he said "you're too busy with the baby so I was going to the pizza shop by myself"!! Needless to say, I fired the lady and installed special locks right away...

Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2005, 4:09 pm Post subject: re: punishment for escapee's

Micki I meant to ask how did u know to go to u'r mothers house to begin w/h or has this happend b/4. Razz

B/c if it was me I wouldn't know where to go

Moderator Joined: Oct 18 2004 Posts: 2659

we just installed a chain lock on our door, too. my 22 month old has gotten out a few times. thankfully, she's only gotten as far as the front door of our apt. building. and now, when she tries to open the door, she gets so frustrated!
I got these child locks from someone that are supposed to fit over the door knob. well, maybe I installed them wrong... two mornings in a row I could not get the door knob to open the door at all- I was locked inside my apt!!! it was pretty scary! so I got rid of that and went for the chain lock instead. I would prefer a higher bolt lock, though. because, if my dh leaves to daven in the morning, he can't close the chain after himself, so I have to make sure to do it b4 my daughter gets there.

Diamond Member Joined: Apr 30 2004 Posts: 4367

0613 we realized that we have the same problem! he leaves at 5:30 so if the boys are really wanting to, the chain is open till I come down.
and I went to my mothers house cause she lives 2 doors away, and my 2 yr old is programmed to ONLY go there- one time we were going to shul and he thru a fuss and said no we have to go sata house! also I saw her front door open and it being so early that was unusual.

Diamond Member Joined: Aug 01 2005 Age: 31 Posts: 4999

micki, I sent you a PM with a link to a website where you can buy those door knobs. they work very well.
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