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PostPosted: Mon, May 14 2007, 2:08 pm    Post subject: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yoshuv
 
All previously healthy Yeshiva boys, all dieing suddenly.

What's going on?
Why is this happening?
What are Gedolim saying?
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PostPosted: Mon, May 14 2007, 2:09 pm    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
One happened on Shabbos, one on Sunday.
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PostPosted: Mon, May 14 2007, 2:53 pm    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
Do you all not see this post, not care about this post, or are you clueless about how to respond?
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PostPosted: Mon, May 14 2007, 3:00 pm    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
yikes, what a post amother?

do you want everyone on this site to respond? what about not writing anything, cuz you dont knwo what to write?

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PostPosted: Mon, May 14 2007, 3:09 pm    Post subject:
 
What exactly do you want us to say?

First, I don't know why this is in Judaism.
Two, Kol Dodi Dofek is a quote from Shir HaShirim that I never would have associated with RL two young people dying.
Three, I thought you were trying to make a shidduch between a 16 and 23 year old. I really didn't know what you were talking about.

Even now that I've read it I don't really know what you want anyone to say.
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PostPosted: Mon, May 14 2007, 3:29 pm    Post subject:
 
Crayon210 wrote:
What exactly do you want us to say?

First, I don't know why this is in Judaism.
Two, Kol Dodi Dofek is a quote from Shir HaShirim that I never would have associated with RL two young people dying.

Even now that I've read it I don't really know what you want anyone to say.
You haven't read the much publicized poem by that title about the rapid onslaught of continuous heinous tragedies facing us recetly. Otherwise it probably would have clicked.

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=5603#more-5603
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PostPosted: Mon, May 14 2007, 3:48 pm    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
Because I didn't know what to say except Baruch Dyan Emet.
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PostPosted: Mon, May 14 2007, 4:28 pm    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
yes, I just got an email about the 16 yo boy, we know the family. its very sad and what should I say but bde and maybe daven a little more?
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PostPosted: Mon, May 14 2007, 5:19 pm    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
Terrible tragedy...
Boruch Dayan Haemes
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PostPosted: Tue, May 15 2007, 8:39 am    Post subject:
 
Crayon210 wrote:
I thought you were trying to make a shidduch between a 16 and 23 year old. I really didn't know what you were talking about.



Same here--great minds think alike!
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PostPosted: Tue, May 15 2007, 9:23 am    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
And I thought you were saying that a 16 yo married a 23 yo.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 15 2007, 9:42 am    Post subject:
 
chen wrote:
Crayon210 wrote:
I thought you were trying to make a shidduch between a 16 and 23 year old. I really didn't know what you were talking about.



Same here--great minds think alike!


thought the same thing.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 15 2007, 10:07 am    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
The "Kol Dodi Dofek" poem about the many sudden deaths in our community, was
1-posted on Yeshiva World,
2-printed in the Yated and I think the Hamodia as well , and
3-posted on THIS website in the very recent past.
4- and was very much talked about as a result of appearing on many forums.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 15 2007, 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor
 
amother wrote:
The "Kol Dodi Dofek" poem about the many sudden deaths in our community, was
1-posted on Yeshiva World,
2-printed in the Yated and I think the Hamodia as well , and
3-posted on THIS website in the very recent past.
4- and was very much talked about as a result of appearing on many forums.


Even if every member of this forum subscribed to every one of the above, which is not the case, it still would not guarantee that everyone would have seen the poem. Do you read every post on every thread on every forum? Do you read every article on every page, cover to cover, of every paper to which you subscribe?

Considering it was recently Pesach during which we read Shir Hashirim, from which "kol Dodi dofek" is a quote, and considering that your title said nothing about BDE or death or anything of a tragic nature, merely mentioned two young people, no gender, just age and location, it is not at all surprising that people would conclude you were talking shidduchim.

People, please think carefully about wording your thread titles and don't go off half-cocked.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 15 2007, 10:36 am    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
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What exactly do you want us to say?

First, I don't know why this is in Judaism.
Two, Kol Dodi Dofek is a quote from Shir HaShirim that I never would have associated with RL two young people dying. .....

Even now that I've read it I don't really know what you want anyone to say.

Me too, Crayon.

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The "Kol Dodi Dofek" poem about the many sudden deaths in our community, was
1-posted on Yeshiva World,
2-printed in the Yated and I think the Hamodia as well , and
3-posted on THIS website in the very recent past.
4- and was very much talked about as a result of appearing on many forums.

Maybe you should do a poll about who saw it. I didn't, and truthfully, a poem about people dying doesn't interest me much.

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Do you read every post on every thread on every forum?

do people read every single thread on here? I skip over the ones that don't interest me, and many of the ones that do I wait to read until the discussion is over.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 15 2007, 10:39 am    Post subject:
 
amother wrote:
Crayon210 wrote:
What exactly do you want us to say?

First, I don't know why this is in Judaism.
Two, Kol Dodi Dofek is a quote from Shir HaShirim that I never would have associated with RL two young people dying.

Even now that I've read it I don't really know what you want anyone to say.
You haven't read the much publicized poem by that title about the rapid onslaught of continuous heinous tragedies facing us recetly. Otherwise it probably would have clicked.

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=5603#more-5603


I did read the poem (well, some of it) and still didn't get the reference.
Furthermore, I don't see the point in announcing tragedies. What good does it do?

I only clicked on this thread b/c I thought it was some type of shidduch story.

Learn how to properly title a thread.
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PostPosted: Thu, May 17 2007, 11:18 am    Post subject:
 
DefyGravity wrote:
I did read the poem (well, some of it) and still didn't get the reference.


me neither Confused
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PostPosted: Thu, May 17 2007, 11:53 am    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
Kol Dodi Dofek
Hashem is POUNDING at our door
Don’t we see what’s happening?
Do we know what might be in store?


The poem explains the connection.

82 Responded to “A poem about the recent tragedies” in Yeshiva Word alone. Others responded positively to all the other newspapers it was in. Not one negative comment.


This was the first of 82 all positive responses there to that inspiring poem:

Well put it hits all the notes,
and it really stirs the soul
anyone who reads this,
can’t leave with their heart - whole.


Wink Perhaps we ought to call this website Imacritic.
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PostPosted: Thu, May 17 2007, 3:03 pm    Post subject: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor Yos
 
I would not use the imagery of a lover knocking at the door in connection with tragedies!
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PostPosted: Thu, May 17 2007, 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Kol Dodi Dofek- 16 yr old Rvrdale, 23 yr from Shor
 
Motek wrote:
I would not use the imagery of a lover knocking at the door in connection with tragedies!

Don't we say Baruch Dayan Emes?

Hashem does everything for the good.

If that is so, and hopefully we believe it, why be offended with the connection of love and death? As hurt as we are, are we doubtful of the results and long term effects of Hashem's actions?
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