Are JellyBellys kosher

Hannah!

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 1:06 pm

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waterbottle

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 1:35 pm

I doubt JellyBelly changed any ingredients or processes when they switched to OU. This is an example of how hechshers are political...

chayitty

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 1:46 pm

yuuuummm...now I want these jelly bellys...where do I find them??

kitchen designer

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 2:43 pm

I think that they did change their ingredients when they went under the OU.

(I just found some in Walmart)

Hannah!

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 4:13 pm

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cassandra

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 4:33 pm

It is called carmine, it's not from a beetle but is from an insect, and the OU does not consider it a kosher additive.

Ruchel

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 4:35 pm

Yes, carmine is not kosher. It's getting rarer nowadays, but it's part of the list of unkosher ingredients in France. If you see it's there, you can't buy. It's also called E120, which BH is also mentioned on the list so you don't have to guess, and comes from the cochineal.

Crayon210

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 5:49 pm

waterbottle wrote:

I doubt JellyBelly changed any ingredients or processes when they switched to OU. This is an example of how hechshers are political...

You doubt that JellyBelly changed their ingredients or processes (have no actual idea), and then proclaim this to be an example of how hechshers are political. Do you realize how silly that sounds? Confused

(BTW, there could be a number of explanations, even if you were correct that nothing changed, but the fact is that you're just making assumptions.)

cassandra

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 5:56 pm

Hashgacha means that the process is being observed. So even if the ingredients are the same, if the KO visited the plant to oversee operations once a year (for example), and the OU visits more frequently, that is why it is a superior hashgacha. It has absolutely nothing to do with the ingredients.

su7kids

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 6:30 pm

I happen to know that the JellyBelly company paid a LOT of money to change their hashgocha, and they did it to reach the highest standards, and I know that the ingredients list is checked every single time the Mashgiach goes there, including purchase orders from the times he has not been there.

So, I'm sure they are not using any beetle juice, or anything like that.

Hannah!

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 6:46 pm

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cassandra

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 6:47 pm

Well, there is an argument that it should be ok. Where is the one who always brings the daas yachid and claims it's normative Orthodoxy when we need her?

Hannah!

Tue, Apr 15 2008, 6:49 pm

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hannah95

Wed, Apr 16 2008, 4:52 am

I was making a joke about the beetle juice actually, I should have added a
Tongue Out

We eat OU, not dairy though, and I don't belive for a minute they'll use insect juice in something certified.

H.

cassandra

Wed, Apr 16 2008, 8:22 am

Hannah, because you are a relatively new member of this site I will give you a tip:

No matter how far out or off base someone sounds, never assume they are joking, because there is a good chance they are serious.

Hannah!

Wed, Apr 16 2008, 10:42 am

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Zus

Wed, Apr 16 2008, 10:44 am

Hannah! wrote:

Out of curiosity, do you eat OU-D that is also certified as chalav yisrael? I've never heard of someone not eating OU-d before unless it was out of concern for CY.

I've never seen OU-D chalav yisrael, I guess they don't sell that here in EY. But if I'd see it, I'd eat it. We don't eat normal OU-D because we don't eat chalav akum/nochri.