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princessleah
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 Tue, Aug 21 2012, 4:25 pm
This whole notion of being held accountable for every thing you do after 120 is a little foreign to me. If you do your teshuva properly on Yom Kippur, I don't think if you listened to your regular Rav's psak it is going to be brought up 25 years later in shamayim. Your slate is wiped clean!
That being said, I don't believe it's a Jewish concept for someone else to carry the burden of your sin. That sounds very xtian to me. "Ain shaliach l'dvar Aveira-- there is no messenger for a sin." So if your Rabbi tells you you can eat a ham sandwich, and you eat it, you can't defend yourself by saying "but my Rabbi said it was ok!" (that is an extreme and unrealistic example.)
Obviously, if your Rabbi told you that, you'd look at him askance. Similarly, if your Rav tells you, let's say, to NOT report child abuse to the police, I would think you do carry the weight of that on your shoulders if you choose to follow the Rav's guidance in that case.
When I have asked my community Rabbi's advice (he does not consider himself a posek), he has demonstrated to me that he is reliable and trustworthy by:
1) explaining to me the halachic rationale behind the issues
2) consulting with other Rabbis in the community about the issue
3) Balancing the need to follow halacha with SB issues (in one specific case)
4) telling me, this is what the halacha says, now you take it and decide what you're going to do (as opposed to: do this. or don't do this.)
A good Rav + a little sechel = happy Jew!
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5*Mom
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Wed, Aug 22 2012, 5:12 am
| princessleah wrote: | This whole notion of being held accountable for every thing you do after 120 is a little foreign to me. If you do your teshuva properly on Yom Kippur, I don't think if you listened to your regular Rav's psak it is going to be brought up 25 years later in shamayim. Your slate is wiped clean!
That being said, I don't believe it's a Jewish concept for someone else to carry the burden of your sin. That sounds very xtian to me. "Ain shaliach l'dvar Aveira-- there is no messenger for a sin." So if your Rabbi tells you you can eat a ham sandwich, and you eat it, you can't defend yourself by saying "but my Rabbi said it was ok!" (that is an extreme and unrealistic example.)
Obviously, if your Rabbi told you that, you'd look at him askance. Similarly, if your Rav tells you, let's say, to NOT report child abuse to the police, I would think you do carry the weight of that on your shoulders if you choose to follow the Rav's guidance in that case.
When I have asked my community Rabbi's advice (he does not consider himself a posek), he has demonstrated to me that he is reliable and trustworthy by:
1) explaining to me the halachic rationale behind the issues
2) consulting with other Rabbis in the community about the issue
3) Balancing the need to follow halacha with SB issues (in one specific case)
4) telling me, this is what the halacha says, now you take it and decide what you're going to do (as opposed to: do this. or don't do this.)
A good Rav + a little sechel = happy Jew! |
Same as our Rav.
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5*Mom
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Wed, Aug 22 2012, 5:14 am
[quote="5*Mom"] | princessleah wrote: | | This whole notion of being held accountable for every thing you do after 120 is a little foreign to me. |
My focus is less on what happens after 120 and more, much more, on what I am obligated to do here and now.
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