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 Posted: Tue, Aug 07 2012, 9:12 am Post subject: Re: re: High Cost of Chalav Yisrael/Pas Yisrael/ Heimish Hec |
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| OOTBubby wrote: | | Squishy wrote: | | PinkFridge wrote: | | de_goldy wrote: | | I mean in general, use less dairy, less meat, etc. The alternative to buying expensive cholov yisroel doesn't have to be buying cheaper cholov stam. It can be buying less dairy altogether. |
CY, and pas Yisrael, as much as possible, are non-negotiable. I buy cheese when it goes on sale, I always check the reduced cheeses and milchigs (close to or at date, usually good), and yes, overpay for crackers and pretzels but what can we do. (The cheapest available pita is pas Yisrael, FWIW. Wish we could get cheap bagels so do the next best thing and buy the reduced.)
As far as heimish hashgacha in general, I wish I could do it to give people parnasa but we don't consider that a kashrus concern, so we only buy heimish if it's on sale and the same price. Living OOT especially, even with grocers that don't gouge but do have expenses, there's no way we could justify that. |
Does anyone know which Satmar Rebbe? I am disturbed by this because I always heard it was a better Hechsher. When I give people money, I want to do it knowingly. I rely on the hechsher thinking one brand is superior to another. Does anyone else find this deceptive? |
If you mean which Rebbe mentioned in the magazine article -- it was the Rebbe Rav Yoelish (and the product in question was baby food). |
Thank you. Is this only with baby food or is it more widespread?
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| Posted: Tue, Aug 07 2012, 9:18 am Post subject: Re: re: High Cost of Chalav Yisrael/Pas Yisrael/ Heimish Hec |
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| Squishy wrote: |
If you mean which Rebbe mentioned in the magazine article -- it was the Rebbe Rav Yoelish (and the product in question was baby food). |
Thank you. Is this only with baby food or is it more widespread?[/quote]
The article only referred to baby food. However, I have heard from people in the kashrus industry (can't quote names, as I don't recall, but it has been mentioned more than once) that a "rubberstamp" heimish hechsher is not unusual. Not that all heimish hechsherim are like that, but some are. And it doesn't mean that a mashgiach from the heimish hechsher isn't present, it just means, that all they do is fully approve everything as it is already done without them.
There is one kashrus baki who claims (and I certainly don't know if it is true) that one should only use a heimish hechsher if it also has a strong national hechsher like the OU -- because that is who is really checking the kashrus of the product.
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| Posted: Tue, Aug 07 2012, 12:50 pm Post subject: re: High Cost of Chalav Yisrael/Pas Yisrael/ Heimish Hechshe |
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| The problem with CY cheese, from my perspective, is the variety. I like the Stark cheese a lot and think it's fine, but there are a lot of cheeses that you can't find (at least not where I live) in CY. And that's rather frustrating.
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| Posted: Tue, Aug 07 2012, 2:40 pm Post subject: re: High Cost of Chalav Yisrael/Pas Yisrael/ Heimish Hechshe |
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| Many national kosher items are pas yisroel. The mashgiach is the one to turn on the machinery. That way it does not need to be shut down when doing a run for another hechsher. You can call the ou or e-mail them about specific products.
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