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PostPosted: Sat, Jul 28 2012, 10:55 pm    Post subject: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
I'm Baruch Hashem 6 months pregnant and was told not to fast.
I am high risk and on medication.

I took my medication with less than an ounce of water but I'm hungry and feel guilty eating.
Rav told me not to even fast till chatzos but does that mean I shoudldn't even fast till the morning?
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PostPosted: Sat, Jul 28 2012, 11:05 pm    Post subject: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
whenever you break your fast, your husband needs to make havdala for you first (women should not make havdala) but you should drink instead of him. I had a baby a few days ago and we were told that my husband should make havdala for me but since it's 9 b'av we shouldn't drink wine/grape juice. Instead it should be over beer or coffee. I would wait till the morning but my DH won't be home from shul till almost chatzos and I don't know if I can wait that long so I am waiting for him to come home tonight and will hear havdalah soon.
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PostPosted: Sat, Jul 28 2012, 11:07 pm    Post subject: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
I was told to just say baruch Hamavdil and that my husband will make havdalah tomorrow night. Interesting... Different shita's I guess.
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PostPosted: Sat, Jul 28 2012, 11:07 pm    Post subject: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
Woman CAN make havdala....
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
amother wrote:
whenever you break your fast, your husband needs to make havdala for you first (women should not make havdala) but you should drink instead of him. I had a baby a few days ago and we were told that my husband should make havdala for me but since it's 9 b'av we shouldn't drink wine/grape juice. Instead it should be over beer or coffee. I would wait till the morning but my DH won't be home from shul till almost chatzos and I don't know if I can wait that long so I am waiting for him to come home tonight and will hear havdalah soon.


Maybe your rav holds that women can't make Havdala but mine specifically told me that I (not DH) should before eating. Please don't make blanket statements like that.

Op, you should clarify with your rav. Mine told me not to try to fast at all but others hold differently.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 5:06 am    Post subject: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
You neeed to ask you're rav when you should break you're fast. My rav told me that I should def. drink at night already (I'm 11 weeks preg.) and if I need I could eat at night already. So my dh made havdalah for me this morning at abt. 10 00. Last night I was ok with not eating. He made havdalah and I drank the grape juice. Every rav hold diff about woman making havdalah my sil got a psak that she doesnt need to hear havdalah she could eat with out hearing havdalah.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
amother wrote:
whenever you break your fast, your husband needs to make havdala for you first (women should not make havdala)


We hold the exact opposite. Please don't make blanket statements like that.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 9:45 am    Post subject: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
I'm 35 weeks and I was told not to fast at all. My DH told me to make havdala this morning preferably and have my oldest daughter drink the grape juice. He also said that if I have to make it at night, I should make it on a chamar medina so I can drink it myself.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 9:56 am    Post subject: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
Women can make havdala for themselves. Wouldn't it be a brocha le vatala if a man makes borei pri hagefen or shehakol nihye bidvaro and he doesn't drink it then?

Your dh has to make havdola for himself and anyone else who fasted at the end of the fast...

Where are people getting this idea that a woman can't make havdola?
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 9:57 am    Post subject: Re: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
amother wrote:
I'm 35 weeks and I was told not to fast at all. My DH told me to make havdala this morning preferably and have my oldest daughter drink the grape juice. He also said that if I have to make it at night, I should make it on a chamar medina so I can drink it myself.


this doesn't make sense to me either...just make havdola on coffee or beer or some other permitted drink that isn't from grapes. I made on tea this morning.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
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Women can make havdala for themselves. Wouldn't it be a brocha le vatala if a man makes borei pri hagefen or shehakol nihye bidvaro and he doesn't drink it then?



Not any more than it's a bracha levatala when someone makes a hagafen on wine under the chupa and then the choson and kalla drink it.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
sarahd wrote:
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Women can make havdala for themselves. Wouldn't it be a brocha le vatala if a man makes borei pri hagefen or shehakol nihye bidvaro and he doesn't drink it then?



Not any more than it's a bracha levatala when someone makes a hagafen on wine under the chupa and then the choson and kalla drink it.


Ok thank you. I spoke to dh about it and he also explained that part to me.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 11:05 am    Post subject: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
12 weeks preggo.

Since we knew I wasn't going to fast, dh made havdalah last night and ds drank the grape juice.

I fasted until the morning (which wasn't so easy), because I felt wrong eating at night since we werent' even allowed to as children, though dh kept telling me to eat if I was so sick I ate this morning and then threw up everything....and managed to keep things down since..
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
sarahd wrote:
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Women can make havdala for themselves. Wouldn't it be a brocha le vatala if a man makes borei pri hagefen or shehakol nihye bidvaro and he doesn't drink it then?



Not any more than it's a bracha levatala when someone makes a hagafen on wine under the chupa and then the choson and kalla drink it.


Off topic, but a I know a rav who instructed someone who said Hagafen under the chuppa to lick the wine that dripped off the cup to his hand....
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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 29 2012, 2:50 pm    Post subject: re: When to break fast if told not to fast?
 
Im 8 weeks preg. Our rav said no matter which month ur upto you dont need to fast. He also said that we just say burich hamavdil.... & I dont need to hear havdulah before breaking fast. So everyone aylor cuz everyone says different . That was from my chasidish satmar rav.
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