I wouldn't make an issue of it. Especially since the kids themselves have no clue what they're saying and will forget about it eventually.
When I was in camp we had all these kind of cheers and hand slapping games that I think back to now and wonder what my parents thought when I sang them. Anyone remember them?
"Boys boys have some fun, here comes sally with her raincoat on,..." Don't remember the rest but that alone is not too great.
What about that pretty little dutchgirl song.. "all the boys around my block go crazy over me me me, my boyfriends name is Chaim, he comes from yerushalayim....One day when I was walking I saw my boyfriend talking to a pretty little girl with strawberry curls and this is what he said to her..I l-o-v-e you I k-I-s-s you...I jumped into the lake..." That song was really popular in my days. Though it wasn't necessarily a cheer made by the camp, just a song we all sang. But still.
But my point is that I had no clue what I was saying. Neither did most other girls. Just thought it was a cute song.
Can't remember this whole song but I do recall this one part. You say "look at these" and point to your breasts..
I can't believe the things we sang..
Am I the only one that used to sing these?
No, I remember those too How about Miss Lucy had a steamboat? That was the really risque one because of the "behind the 'frigerator, there is a piece of glass" part....
I wouldn't make an issue of it. Especially since the kids themselves have no clue what they're saying and will forget about it eventually.
When I was in camp we had all these kind of cheers and hand slapping games that I think back to now and wonder what my parents thought when I sang them. Anyone remember them?
"Boys boys have some fun, here comes sally with her raincoat on,..." Don't remember the rest but that alone is not too great.
What about that pretty little dutchgirl song.. "all the boys around my block go crazy over me me me, my boyfriends name is Chaim, he comes from yerushalayim....One day when I was walking I saw my boyfriend talking to a pretty little girl with strawberry curls and this is what he said to her..I l-o-v-e you I k-I-s-s you...I jumped into the lake..." That song was really popular in my days. Though it wasn't necessarily a cheer made by the camp, just a song we all sang. But still.
But my point is that I had no clue what I was saying. Neither did most other girls. Just thought it was a cute song.
Can't remember this whole song but I do recall this one part. You say "look at these" and point to your breasts..
I can't believe the things we sang..
Am I the only one that used to sing these?
No, I remember those too How about Miss Lucy had a steamboat? That was the really risque one because of the "behind the 'frigerator, there is a piece of glass" part....
about the bolded: the girls I knew would stretch their necklines downward for that line.
speaking of misinformed use of words, I once got an ad from a jewish company for some new sucking candies they got in that were all natural. they wanted to sell them to ppl on restricted diets. their ad was as follows:
now you can have your candy and suck it, too!
I couldn't stop laughing... I still wonder if anyone pointed out to them exactly how that sounded...
oh, and ftr, I learned some VERY interesting things in sleepaway camp. one was how to PROPERLY dance the macarena, and another was a little song/dance number known as dominoe's buffalo wings... anyone here familiar with that one? anyway, bunkmates were very helpful in pointing out that I didn't swing my hips enough when dancing the macarena. this prepared me for my cousins' bar/bat mitzvahs where I wasn't allowed to dance anyway, but at least I could watch the dancers and see if they were good at it or not
if the girls thought any of these cheers were inappropriate, they wouldn't sing them for their mothers, they'd sing them with friends in private and giggle.
it never occured to me as a teen to think about the words we were saying or to try even superficially to understand the meaning of the cheers. half of them did not make any sense to me at all and often contained made up words. we learnt the cheers that the previous campers taught us, they in turn had learnt it from those before them. we sang them as we heard them and did not think to question them. I am quite sure that this counselor is just teaching them what her counsellors had taught her.
by the way, the "my back is aching" one was followed by us with "ooh agawah, name of group needs a shower". that is what I mean by it all being meaningless nonsense. we never thought "what does agawah mean?" similarly we never thought about what any of it meant. it didn't matter WHAT we were singing, the main thing was HOW LOUD we could sing it!
let them enjoy their youth and innocence - it won't cause any damage to anyone. and you won't be able to change anything anyway. it is all part of the "camp mesorah" that has been going on for generations.
Posted: Sun, Jan 20 2013, 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: re: inappropriate cheer?
[quote="Monsey Mom"]I thought it was from the 70's (could've sworn that I danced to it in 6th grade...)
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Posted: Sun, Jan 20 2013, 7:13 pm Post subject: re: inappropriate cheer?
I know this is an antique thread, but are none of you familiar with the Andrews Sisters? (And what may be the only wholly tzniut music clip on youtube.)
Posted: Sun, Jan 20 2013, 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: re: inappropriate cheer?
amother wrote:
I wouldn't make an issue of it. Especially since the kids themselves have no clue what they're saying and will forget about it eventually.
When I was in camp we had all these kind of cheers and hand slapping games that I think back to now and wonder what my parents thought when I sang them. Anyone remember them?
"Boys boys have some fun, here comes sally with her raincoat on,..." Don't remember the rest but that alone is not too great.
What about that pretty little dutchgirl song.. "all the boys around my block go crazy over me me me, my boyfriends name is Chaim, he comes from yerushalayim....One day when I was walking I saw my boyfriend talking to a pretty little girl with strawberry curls and this is what he said to her..I l-o-v-e you I k-I-s-s you...I jumped into the lake..." That song was really popular in my days. Though it wasn't necessarily a cheer made by the camp, just a song we all sang. But still.
But my point is that I had no clue what I was saying. Neither did most other girls. Just thought it was a cute song.
Can't remember this whole song but I do recall this one part. You say "look at these" and point to your breasts..
I can't believe the things we sang..
Am I the only one that used to sing these?
I remember the boyfriend Chaim from Yerushalayim!
Ever heard of this one:
Mailman, mailman, do your duty,
Here comes miss American Beauty!
She can do the pompom [here we would shake our hips]
she can do the twist
But best of all she can blow you a kiss!
K-I-S-S [we spread out our legs here]
Btw I am very yeshivish/chareidi ... We could not for the lives of us figure out why our friends' mothers didn't like it!
My sisters and I were discussing that the kids whose mothers yelled at us would do it more, because they thought it was funny, while it eventually got old for the rest of us, so we stopped (and it wasn't until when we got older that we realized what it meant)!
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Posted: Sun, Jan 20 2013, 9:15 pm Post subject: re: inappropriate cheer?
I wouldn't worry about this. I know of a certain frum sleepaway camp that uses this cheer jsut bit diff ( hey u over there get up and start to cheer were _ were hot well show u what we've got, whip it up ) at the last few words they'd put their right hand up and swing their wrist. As a frum by girl (I heard this first in h.s - I'm in my low 20's) I never thought anything of it. These councelors heard the cheer and innocently used it. I didd hear the "back is breaking" cheer but not by bais yaakov crowed. That cheer involves shaking hips so if ud be concerened abt that ohe, I hear it - as a hi school girl I wouldn't of used it. Anyways, I don't think u shud think these girls meant anything inappropriate
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Posted: Sun, Jan 20 2013, 9:15 pm Post subject: re: inappropriate cheer?
I wouldn't worry about this. I know of a certain frum sleepaway camp that uses this cheer jsut bit diff ( hey u over there get up and start to cheer were _ were hot well show u what we've got, whip it up ) at the last few words they'd put their right hand up and swing their wrist. As a frum by girl (I heard this first in h.s - I'm in my low 20's) I never thought anything of it. These councelors heard the cheer and innocently used it. I didd hear the "back is breaking" cheer but not by bais yaakov crowed. That cheer involves shaking hips so if ud be concerened abt that ohe, I hear it - as a hi school girl I wouldn't of used it. Anyways, I don't think u shud think these girls meant anything inappropriate
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Posted: Sun, Jan 20 2013, 9:15 pm Post subject: re: inappropriate cheer?
I wouldn't worry about this. I know of a certain frum sleepaway camp that uses this cheer jsut bit diff ( hey u over there get up and start to cheer were _ were hot well show u what we've got, whip it up ) at the last few words they'd put their right hand up and swing their wrist. As a frum by girl (I heard this first in h.s - I'm in my low 20's) I never thought anything of it. These councelors heard the cheer and innocently used it. I didd hear the "back is breaking" cheer but not by bais yaakov crowed. That cheer involves shaking hips so if ud be concerened abt that ohe, I hear it - as a hi school girl I wouldn't of used it. Anyways, I don't think u shud think these girls meant anything inappropriate
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