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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 3:58 pm    Post subject: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
We received china, silverware and several beautiful, expensive serving pieces for our wedding. I am hesitant about using them for company bec most people we eat by dont have such nice pieces and a lot only use paper. My husband feels that it is Shabbos and therefore we should use them because of the mitzva of kibbud shobbas. I don't want to be showy or to make ppl feel bad. what should we do?
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 4:01 pm    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
You can casually mention that they were a gift (the first time you have a guest) but I am with your dh on this one. Both my father and dh both have the same hashkafa and that is if you honor Shabbos, a lot of bracha comes into your house. I have also been to people that serve with plastic and paper, so what?
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 4:01 pm    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
IMO, a shabbos tish is a shabbos tish and I see no reason why you can't have a nice one. Every person's standards are different and you go according to your comfort level.
I have gorgeous china, yet I don't' want to wash it every week so I buy fancy paper. That's my kovod shabbos treat.
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
stillgrowing wrote:
We received china, silverware and several beautiful, expensive serving pieces for our wedding. I am hesitant about using them for company bec most people we eat by dont have such nice pieces and a lot only use paper. My husband feels that it is Shabbos and therefore we should use them because of the mitzva of kibbud shobbas. I don't want to be showy or to make ppl feel bad. what should we do?


why would you waste it? use it and enjoy. no one will begrudge you the use of nice wedding gifts.
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 4:36 pm    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
they may not be putting out the nice dishes when they have lots of guests since they don't have enough, or its too much work to wash up so much china, but they do use them when they have fewer people.

Absolutely use them. its shabbos, honour it!
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
stillgrowing wrote:
We received china, silverware and several beautiful, expensive serving pieces for our wedding. I am hesitant about using them for company bec most people we eat by dont have such nice pieces and a lot only use paper. My husband feels that it is Shabbos and therefore we should use them because of the mitzva of kibbud shobbas. I don't want to be showy or to make ppl feel bad. what should we do?


you can give them to me! Ill use it!!
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 6:04 pm    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
We use our best china and silver every shabat and holiday.
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 6:25 pm    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
I don't think you will find many people having a grudge over such a thing. I think guests who can discern that you are serving them on fine china will appreciate the fact. Many probably won't even know the difference.
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 6:48 pm    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
It is so considerate of you to be concerned about your guests' feelings. However, I find it unlikely that anyone would feel you are showing off by using china.
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 7:02 pm    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
I see that a lot of people have their best things on display and only use disposable. I assume it's because of the washing up. It's too bad.
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 29 2012, 7:57 am    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
We make it a point not to use disposables on shabat.
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 29 2012, 8:48 am    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
if you don't use it for shabbos, save it for pesach. you're supposed to use nice things on pesach if you can.
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 29 2012, 10:15 am    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
It's sweet of you to wish not to arouse people's envy, but I think you're carrying this sensitivity a bit too far. Unless your dishes are solid gold or you turn the china upside down to show off the Rosenthal logo, few people would consider you ostentatious for using your nice tableware, no matter how expensive it is.

People have many reasons for using disposables. It's not necessarily because they're too poor to have real dishes, as it's actually cheaper in the long run to use real dishes than to use disposables all the time.

Some folks hate washing dishes or don't want to be bothered on Shabbos. Some people like to invite more people than they have place settings. Some don't like their china but can't exchange it because it was a wedding gift from their mil, and some are afraid to use it because if they break a platter, there goes $150. And some consider their expensive dinnerware 'too good to use" and will pass it along, still unused, to their eldest child, who will not use it because she doesn't like the design...
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 29 2012, 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
zaq wrote:
It's sweet of you to wish not to arouse people's envy, but I think you're carrying this sensitivity a bit too far. Unless your dishes are solid gold or you turn the china upside down to show off the Rosenthal logo, few people would consider you ostentatious for using your nice tableware, no matter how expensive it is.

People have many reasons for using disposables. It's not necessarily because they're too poor to have real dishes, as it's actually cheaper in the long run to use real dishes than to use disposables all the time.

Some folks hate washing dishes or don't want to be bothered on Shabbos. Some people like to invite more people than they have place settings. Some don't like their china but can't exchange it because it was a wedding gift from their mil, and some are afraid to use it because if they break a platter, there goes $150. And some consider their expensive dinnerware 'too good to use" and will pass it along, still unused, to their eldest child, who will not use it because she doesn't like the design...


lol. so true.
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 29 2012, 10:59 am    Post subject: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
I myself am from the "don't like the dishes my mil gave us as a wedding gift" crew.

They were expensive; I had no idea how expensive till I broke one and wanted to replace it. (Only because I have a "thing" for complete sets, not because I loved the broken dish so much.) So now I was not only using dishes I disliked, but I had to worry how much money was going down the drain every time one broke.

Eventually I bought inexpensive but pretty dishes that I like very much and those are what we use all the time. The expensive set is sitting in a cabinet and never sees the light of day. I'm hoping against hope that one of our kids will agree to take them off our hands when s/he moves out. Because the dishes were a wedding gift from my mil, we can bequeath them only to our kids, not give them away to anyone else.

The heirloom curse in this case lasts only for one generation. I won't give a hoot if whichever child takes the dishes then gives them away. Though this trick resembles money-laundering in reverse, it's fortunately not illegal. I can hardly wait.
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 29 2012, 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
zaq wrote:
I myself am from the "don't like the dishes my mil gave us as a wedding gift" crew.

They were expensive; I had no idea how expensive till I broke one and wanted to replace it. (Only because I have a "thing" for complete sets, not because I loved the broken dish so much.) So now I was not only using dishes I disliked, but I had to worry how much money was going down the drain every time one broke.

Eventually I bought inexpensive but pretty dishes that I like very much and those are what we use all the time. The expensive set is sitting in a cabinet and never sees the light of day. I'm hoping against hope that one of our kids will agree to take them off our hands when s/he moves out. Because the dishes were a wedding gift from my mil, we can bequeath them only to our kids, not give them away to anyone else.

The heirloom curse in this case lasts only for one generation. I won't give a hoot if whichever child takes the dishes then gives them away. Though this trick resembles money-laundering in reverse, it's fortunately not illegal. I can hardly wait.


I assume you wouldn't sell the rest of the set because "it's no longer a full set" and use the money towards something you like, huh? mil never need know...
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 29 2012, 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
mvp wrote:
I think guests who can discern that you are serving them on fine china will appreciate the fact. Many probably won't even know the difference.


I know I wouldn't! Unless they're in the china business or have the bad taste to turn the dinnerware over to see the brand name on the back, few people can tell the difference between expensive china and moderately-priced china.
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 29 2012, 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: re: Nice dishes for shabbos
 
mummiedearest wrote:

I assume you wouldn't sell the rest of the set because "it's no longer a full set" and use the money towards something you like, huh? mil never need know...


Mil would know when she came to visit and the dishes weren't there. I'm scrupulous about displaying or using gifts when the person who gave them to us visits. The rest of the time the item may be hidden in the back of a closet, but when mil visits, you better believe her gift is going to be out there.

I'm probably guilty of g'nevat daat, but in a nice way, don't you think?
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