Moyshele

Posted: Thu, Jun 28 2012, 2:10 pm Post subject: Moyshele

How would you write it?

My saba says as is read, my friend who is a Yiddish scholar says Hebrew names keep their spelling...
1) mem vav yud shin ayn lamed ayn
2) mem shin he lamed ayn
3) other?

Please no apostrophe, it looks too weird even for me Wink

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2.

And I like your last option!

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I would do
מושעלע
or
מוישלע
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I would write is as Moshe Mem,shin, heh

Also done around here is Mem,shin,heh apostrophe, lamed, heh

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mem, shin, heh, apostrophe, lamed heh. Sorry you don't like it, but that's how diminutives were spelled in my ancestral neck of the woods.

Yiddish words that are actually Hebrew words are spelled as they are in hebrew, not according to Yiddish phonetics. therefore chasunah is not chet, aleph, samech, vav, nun, heh, but chet, taf. vav, nun, heh, and the son of Amram, whether you call him moyshe or moshe or meishe, is spelled mem shin heh.

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Mem Shin Heh, MOSHE. Even if I called him Moyshele I would not call him that for too long, eventually it becomes Moishy and then Moish or Moshe.
But spelling of a name is already in the Torah, why change it?
What is his real name, Moshe or Moyshele?

Posted: Fri, Jun 29 2012, 7:36 am Post subject: re: Moyshele

Not being Anglo I don't do the -y at all Very Happy

People went by a nickname their all life, even just pre war.

I see kippot with say, Mendy on it - I assume his real name is Menachem Mendel... My grandfather was Moshek all his life. We prefer Moyshele and we don't consider it a problem.

Let's just discuss spelling Smile

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Around here many do not use nicknames, it is a minhag/chumra to stay away from nicknames.

Here it is popular to find a name that can end in a long eeeee sound, so that when calling your child in from outside, you can say Moisheeeeeeeeeeee, Yosseeeeeeeeeeeeee, Shloimeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Mothers call their infants Moyshele, Shloimala, Yosefel, or Yossel, etc, but even if a mother insists on using that name forever, no one else will call that person by such a name.

Most adults introduce themselves as Moishe, or Moishy, Yossel or Yossi, and Shloima or Shloimy.
They will not add on extra syllables to their names, nor will they spell them like that.

On a Ketuba or an document, its just Moshe, Esther, Yosef, etc. No Estees, Moishees, or Yosseees.

Moshek sounds Russian, not popular or in use nowadays.

Posted: Fri, Jun 29 2012, 8:22 am Post subject: Re: re: Moyshele