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Post about is this in style make me want to: 
I feel that if you like it wear it. If it's tznius and in good condition wear it. I don't mean wearing a pink tweed suit when the entire wedding is wearing black.
I mean are Tory Burch Shoes in style. You don't have to get the brand everyone is wearing. It makes me sad.
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| Posted: Tue, Jun 05 2012, 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| amother wrote: | Post about is this in style make me want to:
I feel that if you like it wear it. If it's tznius and in good condition wear it. I don't mean wearing a pink tweed suit when the entire wedding is wearing black.
I mean are Tory Burch Shoes in style. You don't have to get the brand everyone is wearing. It makes me sad. |
Why ever not?
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| Posted: Tue, Jun 05 2012, 9:45 pm Post subject: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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If you live in BP you must buy your daughter those rubberized Venettini $80 shoes.....
Don't know how pp go out and spend that kind of money just so their daughters r exactly like e/o else's daughters......BORINGGGGG.
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| Posted: Tue, Jun 05 2012, 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| amother wrote: | If you live in BP you must buy your daughter those rubberized Venettini $80 shoes.....
Don't know how pp go out and spend that kind of money just so their daughters r exactly like e/o else's daughters......BORINGGGGG. |
and if you are really rich and really "in", you'll buy the original Atlanta Moccassins for over $100 and not the knock-off Vennettinis.
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| Posted: Tue, Jun 05 2012, 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| amother wrote: | If you live in BP you must buy your daughter those rubberized Venettini $80 shoes.....
Don't know how pp go out and spend that kind of money just so their daughters r exactly like e/o else's daughters......BORINGGGGG. |
Oh come on, that's what all the stores are selling now. Also, they cost $70. Also, they happen to be very nice, classy, school shoes. If you don't like them don't buy them. I don't buy them cuz they are a piece of junk and I'd rather buy Primigi or Naturino but I have that option cuz my kids are still small in the bigger sizes they hardly have any other choices.
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| Posted: Tue, Jun 05 2012, 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| amother wrote: | | amother wrote: | If you live in BP you must buy your daughter those rubberized Venettini $80 shoes.....
Don't know how pp go out and spend that kind of money just so their daughters r exactly like e/o else's daughters......BORINGGGGG. |
Oh come on, that's what all the stores are selling now. Also, they cost $70. Also, they happen to be very nice, classy, school shoes. If you don't like them don't buy them. I don't buy them cuz they are a piece of junk and I'd rather buy Primigi or Naturino but I have that option cuz my kids are still small in the bigger sizes they hardly have any other choices. |
I'm not the amother, but personally, I feel pressured to buy them for my older kids, because they don't want to buy something that's not in style. But yes, for my younger ones who "don't know any better", I can buy them anything that looks like a good shoe and is well priced.
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| Posted: Tue, Jun 05 2012, 11:08 pm Post subject: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to look current, even if you really like other clothing better.
I adore 'Gone with the Wind' gowns, but I tend not to wear them.
I like 80's style big hair, but I don't wear my wig in that style.
If you don't want to look stylish, that is fine. And if you do want to look stylish, that's your preference.
Looking stylish does not mean looking like a carbon copy of anyone else - it just means looking up-to-date.
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| Posted: Tue, Jun 05 2012, 11:17 pm Post subject: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| Sorry. Didn't know the Venettini's r copies of the Atlanta's. I only have boys and I buy them their shoes *gasp* online.
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| Posted: Tue, Jun 05 2012, 11:41 pm Post subject: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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I don't care about looking stylish. People should wear clothing that flatters THEM, that looks good on THEIR color and figure. If the entire neighborhood is wearing black, that doesn't mean I'm gonna wear it. 'Cause I'm really pale, so when I wear black I look like Bram Stoker looked at me and said, "I have an idea for a novel! And it's gonna be a best-seller!"
If I had money to have my clothes made (ha!) I'd have a bunch of Victorian dresses made in different colors. Long sleeves, tight bodice, flared floor-length skirt. And I couldn't give a toss if I were the only one wearing it this side of the Danube.
Also, people who follow fashion do tend to look like clones -- whether it's "frum styles" or the skinny-jeans-wearing hipsters in the Village.
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 06 2012, 12:17 am Post subject: Re: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| TranquilityAndPeace wrote: | I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to look current, even if you really like other clothing better.
I adore 'Gone with the Wind' gowns, but I tend not to wear them.
I like 80's style big hair, but I don't wear my wig in that style.
If you don't want to look stylish, that is fine. And if you do want to look stylish, that's your preference.
Looking stylish does not mean looking like a carbon copy of anyone else - it just means looking up-to-date. |
In fact, our "eyes" change as fashions change, leading to the "what was I thinking!" phenonomon.
Let's put it this way ... there was a time and place when I assumed that my husband would look something like this:
(Although he and Mary have been happily married for more than 20 years, but you get the idea). I confess, DH doesn't look a thing like Robert Smith.
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 06 2012, 12:23 am Post subject: Re: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| Maya wrote: | | amother wrote: | Post about is this in style make me want to:
I feel that if you like it wear it. If it's tznius and in good condition wear it. I don't mean wearing a pink tweed suit when the entire wedding is wearing black.
I mean are Tory Burch Shoes in style. You don't have to get the brand everyone is wearing. It makes me sad. |
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If the suit is tznua, what's wrong with pink tweed?
I recall one wedding we attended. It was a yeshivish crowd. The men's section (separate seating) was a sea of black & white. Except my DH. He decided to wear a pink dress shirt. It really helped my toddler, who was running back and forth between both sections, locate him.
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 06 2012, 12:56 am Post subject: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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Let's extend the wedding example a bit further.... everyone wears black, you, Dr.Mom, wear a pink suit.... and I show up in a Japanese kimono. Now, we know that a kimono is long and not tight and has nice long sleeves, so I'm perfectly tznius. But...um.... that would just feel wrong.
We live our lives within boundaries, some are real ones (halachic issues) and some are minhag and custom and small things that make a person feel like they belong. If you're going to buy shoes, there's nothing wrong with choosing something "in" so that you don't stand out.
I'll wear my kimono to my artsy hippie friend's simcha.
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 06 2012, 2:39 am Post subject: Re: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| ewa-jo wrote: | Let's extend the wedding example a bit further.... everyone wears black, you, Dr.Mom, wear a pink suit.... and I show up in a Japanese kimono. Now, we know that a kimono is long and not tight and has nice long sleeves, so I'm perfectly tznius. But...um.... that would just feel wrong.
We live our lives within boundaries, some are real ones (halachic issues) and some are minhag and custom and small things that make a person feel like they belong. If you're going to buy shoes, there's nothing wrong with choosing something "in" so that you don't stand out.
I'll wear my kimono to my artsy hippie friend's simcha. |
Let's take someone who lives in a community in which all black is socially mandated. Do you think for one moment that person would wear a kimono (even a black one) to your hippie friend's simcha? Do you think she would wear a kimono even if she were invited out for tea in Kyoto??
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 06 2012, 2:53 am Post subject: Re: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| DrMom wrote: | | ewa-jo wrote: | Let's extend the wedding example a bit further.... everyone wears black, you, Dr.Mom, wear a pink suit.... and I show up in a Japanese kimono. Now, we know that a kimono is long and not tight and has nice long sleeves, so I'm perfectly tznius. But...um.... that would just feel wrong.
We live our lives within boundaries, some are real ones (halachic issues) and some are minhag and custom and small things that make a person feel like they belong. If you're going to buy shoes, there's nothing wrong with choosing something "in" so that you don't stand out.
I'll wear my kimono to my artsy hippie friend's simcha. |
Let's take someone who lives in a community in which all black is socially mandated. Do you think for one moment that person would wear a kimono (even a black one) to your hippie friend's simcha? Do you think she would wear a kimono even if she were invited out for tea in Kyoto?? |
No, that hypothetical someone would wear the same thing to a hippie's wedding as to a yeshivish wedding. Some people don't change their style to suit their environment while others do. Nothing is wrong with either way. I have friends who dress differently when they're visiting America than they do day-to-day here in Israel. Some of us aren't so brave that we can throw caution to the wind and say "Take me as I am!!!"
I think we only have to go back to the thread about the imamother who wants to quit wearing sheitels, but is afraid of how it will affect her husband and her children's shidduchim.
Back to the idea that someone picks her next pair of shoes based on whether a particular style is 'in' or not.... well, she's someone who might be more conscious of social pressures or it could be someone who doesn't want to embarrass her teenage kids or it could be someone who likes to be stylish. Why give her such a hard time?
After I bought my Tory Burch shoes (I bought them online and shipped them to Israel), I explained to my DH that they were very stylish shoes and good quality and that I was not so crazy for wanting these particular shoes. I wore my shoes to a bris we attended and sat with my friend's MIL.. who was wearing the same Tory Burch shoes!!!
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 06 2012, 8:41 am Post subject: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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Ok, let me say how much I ha... uhm... don't get this whole in business. I recently deal a lot with very young girls who start teaching at school. They all are dressed black and black and shabosdik on a week day (at least I don't see the difference when I see them on shabos). In their opinion a teacher must look in and 'yummy', in order to be respected. I said, a teacher should look tznisdik and neat and subdued and yes, pleasant, but not model like. They disagreed, because they said, poor children are to be looking at you the whole day long and you should look according to their eyes' expectations, so to say. Huh? Yes, said one. My sister, said she, once came home and complained about a substitute teacher wearing something old and not matching and the poor girl could hardly look at her during those two lessons. 'She's so sensitive', said she. The rest nodded.
Well, and once I asked one of my dd's what she likes about one of those young teachers, I meant their teaching! Honestly. But she said, 'Her necklaces!'
I need to work on my perception I guess, because I don't see the difference in black and black and their appearance on yom ashishi lesheishes yemei maaseh.
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 06 2012, 9:22 am Post subject: Re: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| amother wrote: | If you live in BP you must buy your daughter those rubberized Venettini $80 shoes.....
Don't know how pp go out and spend that kind of money just so their daughters r exactly like e/o else's daughters......BORINGGGGG. |
This is so funny! Americans think $80 is a lot for kids shoes?
Gosh I just spent $99 for a 3 year old & $120 for the older one.
These are regular shoes.
But I guess you guys don't spend $230 on a pair of rockports either.
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I've been cleaning up my files and found a couple pre war wedding pics. Ha, colours! 
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 06 2012, 9:36 am Post subject: Re: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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| amother wrote: | If you live in BP you must buy your daughter those rubberized Venettini $80 shoes.....
Don't know how pp go out and spend that kind of money just so their daughters r exactly like e/o else's daughters......BORINGGGGG. |
Shopping for my kids summer shoes in a BP store, I asked him not to bring out the Luccini/Venettini, he told me "you can't fight the styles, e/o in the BP schools are wearing them, you don't want your kids the only ones in the class without them. I told him if he gives me a 3 month guarantee I have no problem buying them otherwise he should bring out s/t else & guess what he did. and NO my girls aren't the only ones in the class without them. I wonder how that junk is selling so well & expensive too.
They range from 70-79 dollars depending on store & style.
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 06 2012, 9:37 am Post subject: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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I personally thought that it is sad to know the difference between men and ladies only by looking to see if there is a skirt between the knees, or if the said person is wearing pants.
when you need to meet me at any place, you will find me easier, because of not being so black.
who decides what is in? I want to have a word with him/her.
story: I had guests for shabbos and wore a colourful (yellow pink green...) housedress, and the lady guest says that I brighten my home. I muttered that she darkens mine. I dont think she got it though.
and when I went to the store and asked for colours, storekeeper talks about creme/beige. and when I insisted that I wanted COLOURS such as light green and light blue (couldnt shock her with wanting yellow) she asked in amazement if I would wear green and blue.
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 06 2012, 9:40 am Post subject: re: Is This In? Raaaa!!! |
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and colour when everyone else is black can be very tsanua. very tsanua, and I repeat very tsanua. even more tsanua than black, depending on cut, fit...
this type of standing out is not untsanua, neither is going out with crutches (with all passersby looking)(if you remember that thread)
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