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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
freidasima wrote:
I doubt that in any really high class office would one would see a high class executive woman wearing a spandex stomach hugging maternity top in which one could see the outline of her belly button.


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51-year-old yeshivish fuddy-duddy here!

When I see real women trying to pull off the "I'm proud of my bump" look, I want to pull my car over and offer them a ride to the trailer park. On second thought, most trailer parks these days are filled with much classier people.

A pregnant woman should not have to mimic her non-pregnant state in order to look good or feel good about herself. So what if you "feel" fat? If you can't put your own vanity on the back burner for a few months, you've got a lot more to worry about in the future than maternity clothes!

I had some decent maternity outfits as well as some hideous ones, and umpteen years later, nobody remembers. But do us all a favor and pass up the spandex and form-fitting knit. First of all, hardly anyone can wear that stuff successfully when not pregnant -- let alone when waddling around in what seems like her 26th month of pregnancy.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 4:44 pm    Post subject: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
I had a pyjama tshirt when I was pregnant that said
"kiss me Im pregnant"
I wanted to wear it on purim but I figured my mil would not love me too much after that lol!

mamabear that tshirt is hilarious!
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
freidasima wrote:
I'm 52 and I think that "showing the bump" is horrendously not tznius, just like I feel that all skin tight clothing, spandex, or anything form fitting is not tznius. There is a fine line between fitted clothing and between skin tight and therefore I wear only things that are a bit loose so that my bust is well covered and nothing pulls over it, ever, and the same goes for my hips and waist etc.

Tznius doesn't change when one is pregnant and the same women who would wear tight clothing over their pregnant stomachs, with belly button showing or not, are the same when not pregnant and they wear tight clothing over their hips, bust, arms and think that they are following "the letter of the law" because they have on long sleeves or cover their knees...but they don't have a clue what the spirit of the law of tznius is.

When I was pregnant I spent most of the 9 months on full bedrest but when I had to go to the doctor I wore loose tops and dresses, and later jumpers that dropped from the shoulders or even A line from the shoulders. I never felt fat in them and no one ever treated me, or other pregnant women, including friends of mine who worked through their whole pregnancies as doctors, nurses, accountants, lawyers, judges, teachers, secretaries, etc. with anything but total respect.

Pregnancy is something to be happy about, but a woman's body, whether pregnant or not, should not according to what tznius is, be "outlined". One should never see a bra line, a panty line, or the distinct outline of any part of one's body that should be covered by how you hold tznius. One should never wear clothing that pull over the chest, the hips, or are skin fitting down the arms from armpits down. One should never wear fabric that would show one's nipples clearly if they get hard from the cold, just like one should never wear a neckline that one can see down if one bends over. Just like one should never wear a skirt that is so tight that one wags one's backside when walking. That's just plain tznius.

So to answer, I'm one of those middle aged MO fuddy duddies who believes that women wearing anything outlining any of their body so much that it can be seen clearly - pregnant or not - look cheap, and not like a religious Jewish woman should look. It is totally not classy. I doubt that in any really high class office would one would see a high class executive woman wearing a spandex stomach hugging maternity top in which one could see the outline of her belly button.


Now I am really curious how your dds dress and if you approve of what they wear. Form fitting clothing is in fashion now and I bet your kids do not want to look like they come from Meah Shearim.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 5:04 pm    Post subject: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
And btw, I can't stand the phrase Baby Bump. Yuk.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 5:05 pm    Post subject: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
Just a question about tight fitting clothing during pregnancy (for anyone who wears them): How is it not uncomfortable?
During my one pregnancy so far, I lived in a long jumper with different colored shirts underneath it. Anything on my waist and stomach just was too painful and too much pressure on my stomach.

Tzniut, I think tight clothing dont look nice, pregnant or not.

Oh, and I am 32.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
shabbatiscoming wrote:
Just a question about tight fitting clothing during pregnancy (for anyone who wears them): How is it not uncomfortable?
During my one pregnancy so far, I lived in a long jumper with different colored shirts underneath it. Anything on my waist and stomach just was too painful and too much pressure on my stomach.

Tzniut, I think tight clothing dont look nice, pregnant or not.

Oh, and I am 32.


It is also supportive.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
imaima wrote:
shabbatiscoming wrote:
Just a question about tight fitting clothing during pregnancy (for anyone who wears them): How is it not uncomfortable?
During my one pregnancy so far, I lived in a long jumper with different colored shirts underneath it. Anything on my waist and stomach just was too painful and too much pressure on my stomach.

Tzniut, I think tight clothing dont look nice, pregnant or not.

Oh, and I am 32.


It is also supportive.
What is supportive? Tight clothing? Interesting, never looked at it that way. For me it was a non starter. Everything that was directly on my stomach just hurt me.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
yoshi wrote:
There was no way in the world I would have been able to hide my popping belly. People thought I was due when I was only 6 months Laughing


Hiding it is not required, but neither is flaunting it. Everyone knows the difference.
There is a way to dress to emphasize the figure, or any parts of the figure.
You can see who dresses in a way to flaunt what.
They even sell bras and girdles with extra padding for those not naturally endowed.
Of course, we want to look thinner, not s*xier. We are supposed to look attractive for our HUSBANDS not for every man looking at us on the street.
But in some parts of the world, a larger derrierre or bust is desirable. They see nothing wrong with "showing skin" (belly skin while pregnant) or showing off the rest of their body, and emphasizing certain body parts.

Some people wear their baby on the inside, some like wearing it on the outside, screaming to be noticed, to shout to the world I AM HAVING A BABY! That is just not the tzniyus way!
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 6:17 pm    Post subject: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=6055&vid=1&pid=153835&scid=153835002

I bought this shirt two weeks ago and this is basically the tightness I wear now. I'm just starting my ninth month and this is basically how I look (although I'm a bit bigger on top). Just curious how you would define this?

I consider this fitted without being skintight and it makes me look and feel good.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 6:24 pm    Post subject: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
I would define it as tight, sorry.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
amother wrote:
http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=6055&vid=1&pid=153835&scid=153835002

I bought this shirt two weeks ago and this is basically the tightness I wear now. I'm just starting my ninth month and this is basically how I look (although I'm a bit bigger on top). Just curious how you would define this?

I consider this fitted without being skintight and it makes me look and feel good.


I wore similar type tops to that and I think its fine. Oh. and about the belly button issue, I dont have that since so far with my 2 pregnancies mine never popped, I guess because its an innie.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 6:33 pm    Post subject: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
I'd wear it. It's fitted and I wear fitted clothes. I believe I look tasteful. I posted a tight outfit a page or two ago and there's a difference. But I'm not haredi and perhaps I focus on different areas of halacha. I'm not about to tell you that you belong in a trailer park b/c your top is fitted. Even it was actually skin tight I would never say that. It's not ladylike to point fingers and badmouth others no matter how loose your own outfit is.

I'm off. I have to go parent.

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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 7:35 pm    Post subject: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
You women are awesome! I love all the opinions, thanks for sharing. By the way, are 95% of the women on imamother in their 20's and 30's? If there's anyone older out there please share your thought so we can round out the discussion. haha that pun was not intended Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 8:38 pm    Post subject: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
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I feel hideously tent-like unless the top is somewhat fitted or tapered via a tie in the back or under the bust. Maybe because I'm so short (4'10) and I carry so "out", but I just need a fitted, tapered look. And FS, I work in a high-class office with 3 other pregnant women in my department; 2 out of those 3 dress with super fitted (and quite low cut, I may add) tops. The substance of your point is true, but unfortunately, in the US, women dress provocatively to work, pregnant or no. In the summer most wear sleeveless (tight) dresses, for example. At any rate, I try to distinguish between "tight" and "fitted" and while I don't cross the line to "tight," I suspect my standards are looser (hahaha) than lots of posters here.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
mizle10 wrote:
imaima wrote:
mizle10 wrote:
MamaBear wrote:
My belly button has never popped and this is my 6th pregnancy. Just wanted you to know lest you think I'm being more tsnius than I am. I'm not. It just doesn't pop.

I wasn't talking about tznius!!!! I just think it's really ugly.


Which brings us back to the question - since when is it forbidden to be ugly?


Where did I say it's forbidden?????
I was just saying I think it's ugly.

Do you think anyone thinks its nice.. I think its rude of you to mention something that people can't help. I actually have an umbilical hernia and no matter what I wear especially when I'm pregnant.. That doesnt mean I will wear a tent because of that.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
amother wrote:
http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=6055&vid=1&pid=153835&scid=153835002

I bought this shirt two weeks ago and this is basically the tightness I wear now. I'm just starting my ninth month and this is basically how I look (although I'm a bit bigger on top). Just curious how you would define this?

I consider this fitted without being skintight and it makes me look and feel good.


I don't think it's tight.

(That's how you look in your ninth month?!)
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PostPosted: Wed, May 23 2012, 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
iluvy wrote:
amother wrote:
http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=6055&vid=1&pid=153835&scid=153835002

I bought this shirt two weeks ago and this is basically the tightness I wear now. I'm just starting my ninth month and this is basically how I look (although I'm a bit bigger on top). Just curious how you would define this?

I consider this fitted without being skintight and it makes me look and feel good.


I don't think it's tight.

(That's how you look in your ninth month?!)


A bit bigger. I still manage to gain almost 30 lbs- most of it went to my tush and thighs- I wish my lower half would look like this models Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, May 24 2012, 4:21 am    Post subject: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
I think that picture of the striped top is very very tight simply because anything that goes in under the stomach around the pubic area is definitely not tznius in my book.

Well I have only one married daughter and when she was pregnant she wore loose tunic tops that skimmed the bust or were slightly gathered under it and then were loose until the bottom of the shirt, meaning they never went in under the stomach. She is very slim and one could definitely see that she was a very slim girl who was expecting, but never the actual size of her "bump" and yes, I hate that expression as well. In my generation a "bump" was like a "lump" and that was ominous, nothing to be happy about. It's one's abdomen for heaven's sake, not a bump.

As for my daughter in law, I'm trying to remember how she dressed. Mostly in jumpers (pinafores for you English), pretty loose or loose tops, again, never spandex and never going in under the stomach.

My single daughters, one dresses more casual and the other much more sophisticated. Neither wear anything tight or low cut, one is more makpid on loose sleeves (the middle one) not to show the armpit or to ever be formfitting on her arms, the younger one is less makpid as she has really skinny arms but never the skintight kind. Just that the middle likes more peasant blouse style arms if you know what I mean, and those are more tznius without a doubt. All of the girls are stylish, the oldest and the youngest and my daughter in law wear skirts covering the knee of course but never down to the floor, I think my oldest daughter has one peasant skirt that she wore in maternity that went down to her ankles, if I remember correctly but they like skirts that are usually somewhat below the knee but showing lower leg. My middle either dresses like that or more like me, she has a lot of down to the ankle skirts, especially for shabbos, that she wears and likes - saves on the stockings as she says! She's the frugal one!

But they wear the kind of shoes I would never in my life look at. High fashion, sometimes high heel, really bare looking sandals. My youngest doesn't wear socks in the summer and she wears what we used to call thong like shoes here called "na'alei etzba" with something between the toes. My middle wears socks or stockings and my oldest these days wears whatever she can stick on her feet running around after her kids all the time! My daughter in law dresses "new age" all these loose wraps and peasant things but she is really slim and you can see it in whatever she is wearing.

And they all look beautiful - all four of them!
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PostPosted: Thu, May 24 2012, 4:56 am    Post subject: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
I also thought it was really tight, sorry.
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PostPosted: Thu, May 24 2012, 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: re: The Baby Bump - to flaunt or not to?
 
amother wrote:
yoshi wrote:
There was no way in the world I would have been able to hide my popping belly. People thought I was due when I was only 6 months Laughing


Hiding it is not required, but neither is flaunting it. Everyone knows the difference.
There is a way to dress to emphasize the figure, or any parts of the figure.
You can see who dresses in a way to flaunt what.
They even sell bras and girdles with extra padding for those not naturally endowed.
Of course, we want to look thinner, not s*xier. We are supposed to look attractive for our HUSBANDS not for every man looking at us on the street.
But in some parts of the world, a larger derrierre or bust is desirable. They see nothing wrong with "showing skin" (belly skin while pregnant) or showing off the rest of their body, and emphasizing certain body parts.

Some people wear their baby on the inside, some like wearing it on the outside, screaming to be noticed, to shout to the world I AM HAVING A BABY! That is just not the tzniyus way!
Can you explain why wearing something that screams out IM HAVING A BABY is not tzniut???? Everyone knows that married people have relations.
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