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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 5:48 am    Post subject: "kill kill"
 
we don't have TV and he definitely didn't pick it up from siblings so that only leaves learning it from other kids in kndergarten.
so what do I do about it? sometimes it's just "kill, kill" other times it's "kill (name of sibling)"

how do you discipline something like that? time out seems too minor. I want to nip it in it's bad right away.
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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 5:51 am    Post subject: re: "kill kill"
 
bud not bad.

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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: re: "kill kill"
 
amother wrote:
bud not bad.

sorry



The "sorry" should actually have a period after it.

Anyway.


I would ignore it and see if he stops. When he is talking nicely start gushing about how wonderful he is speaking and give him a lot of attention.
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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 9:43 am    Post subject: re: "kill kill"
 
ask him what "kill" means. You may be very surprised at what he says. Sometimes children hear things and misunderstand what it means. Then they use the term with a different meaning than we think. I agree that you need to stop this, but understanding what he thinks he is saying is the first step.
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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 11:35 am    Post subject: re: "kill kill"
 
He quite possibly learned it from the morah in school. My son started "killing" animals and people when he learned about Eisav for the first time. Explain again that it's bad and he'll stop. He probably doesn't understand what he's saying anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 11:49 am    Post subject:
 
Explain that it's not a nice thing to say and use time-out if necessary, but snap yourself out of the mentality that 'time-out is too minor' for this. It really isn't such a big deal and if YOU make a big deal out of it then it will become a big deal.
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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 1:02 pm    Post subject: re: "kill kill"
 
Most boys go through the "kill" stage when they learn it in the parshah. Not a big deal.
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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 6:50 pm    Post subject: re: "kill kill"
 
Hi OP - I always preface my remarks by sharing that I have been a Morah for 25 years, and an Early Childhood Professor for 17 years. Okay, that being shared - it is not okay for your DS to state that he is going to 'kill a sibling'.

As others shared - he may not understand what 'kill' means - I would ask him to explain what 'kill' means. And as another mother shared - boys do like to pretend to 'kill' things - YET, he should not state that he is going to 'kill' a sibling or a parent. I would firmly state that this is not okay to say this - period. Once you 'nip it in the bud' and do not accept this statement - he will also stop saying this.

Being a mommy is hard work. Hugs to you!
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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 6:58 pm    Post subject: re: "kill kill"
 
thanks for your replies

mommydiaries I'm typing with one hand while nursing so a missed period will be the least of my mistakes.

ryds he says it with aggression in his voice so whatever he thinks it means, he knows it's bad.


groisamomma, yes he started using it around purim time when he kept on going on about how haman was killed, but I still think he also got it from the kids in kindergarten along with some other aggressive tactics.
I'm not used to it from my other kids and one of them (or maybe my husband) told me that when he went to pick him up from kinder one day the kids were going wild playing "shooting" games and stuff that he has been doing at home.
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Explain that it's not a nice thing to say and use time-out if necessary, but snap yourself out of the mentality that 'time-out is too minor' for this. It really isn't such a big deal and if YOU make a big deal out of it then it will become a big deal.
I hear what you are saying but currently we are using time out for hitting and spitting. To me saying things like kill another sibling does rank worse yes even then hitting.

Paprika I don't remember my other kids doing it nor my sister's kids. I do remember my brother's kids doing it but I think that had a lot to do with the environment they grew up in. All the kids in their neighborhood used to speak that way and were aggresive in their speech. So maybe this is a cultural thing after all.
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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 7:07 pm    Post subject: re: "kill kill"
 
If he says it with aggression in his voice then it's time to nip it in the bud.

If they would use it like the kids I see using it, you wouldn't know if other people's kids were doing it.
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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 8:46 pm    Post subject: re: "kill kill"
 
My two year old used to say "Don't kill me" and we couldn't figure out where he learned that word from. Turns out he was trying to say something else.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 01 2012, 9:44 pm    Post subject: re: "kill kill"
 
I know this is old, but if u read this. my sons say kill all the time. I will u, kill him,etc... my little one actually has told my big one to kill mommy a few times. I do not consider this such a big deal. they absolutely do not understand what it means. they know it is something bad, but they think it means hitting or something like that. when they say it, I tell them it is not nice and not to say it without making a big fuss. did they stop saying it? no. am I worried? no. They get the picture that it is not nice, and I guarentee they will stop saying it within a couple of years.
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