Naomi ragen accused of plagiarism

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/154234#.T3LQB4Gs_uc

There is another book of hers (the sacrifice of tamar) where Tamar gets to meet her future dil for the first time. When I read that passage I realised it was almost identical to a passage I had read in a frum womens compilation about a woman meeting her dil.

So tis clearly not the only case.

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be careful b4 you slander another woman, I am pretty sure its false

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I know you can't believe everything you read in the paper but Haaretz reported that she was ordered to pay 200,000 shekel in compensation.

I'm sure this happens very often. Dh was reading a childrens book once and there were many striking similarities between it and harry potter, yet it was published years before HP. I didn't read the book but there was a platform 14 /3/4, things like that.

Sometimes people authors things and forget about it and might end up putting it in their own work,

raisin, what exactly is your point is telling us all this?
(I feel like unless you have a direct source, this is completely lashon hara)

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I know another writer that this happened to. She wrote a story on the holocaust and shortly after another book came out with the EXACT same story but with different names.
The second author had to pay the original one as compensation.
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This happens in the music world also. IIRC George Harrison had to pay royalties from "My sweet Lord" to a group with a similar song and there was alsio anoither case where somebody had to acknowledge the Beatles as the original source.

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Actually, the title should be, "Naomi Ragen fined after being found guilty of plagiarism."

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Oh, now you are making me curious. I've only read Howl's Moving Castle.
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I can't remember which DWJ book it was, but I'm pretty sure it was one of those. DD loves them and reads them all the time. Possibly it was the Eve Ibbotson book, but I don't think so. I just remember him reading one of them and pointing out the many many similarities between this pook and HP. Maybe there was no platform something and a quarter.

I tired DWJ myself but couldn't really get through them. I started one of the chrestomanchi books, I think. I do see why a kid who likes HP would like these. Books about magic, humourously written. DD LOVES all the DWJ books. So certainly worth a read if you haven't read them.

The point is, DWJ admits there probably was some plagiarism but she doesn't mind at all. Although I think there is a difference between lifting ideas (no one has a copyright on dragons and spells) and lifting passages outright, which is just lazy.

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