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| Are you more likely to divorce over chillul shabbos or belief in hashem? |
| I would probably divorce over chillul shabbos, even if mostly in private, assuming he was not likely to change. |
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| I would probably divorce over atheism, even if he generally kept mitzvos, assuming he was not likely to change. |
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| Divorcing over either shabbos or belief in Hashem is not an option. I would work it out, whatever it takes. |
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| Other, please explain |
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| Barbara |
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 Posted: Thu, Feb 23 2012, 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: re: Would you divorce over chillul shabbos? |
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| Dolly Welsh wrote: | | Ruchel wrote: | | Dolly Welsh wrote: |
Anybody who thinks it isn't a defect should just look at the pop culture and realize there's nothing between you and that except a frum way of life. |
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With your unusually illustrious background you don't see dangers. For others, merely having frum background is no life-preserver. I assume that is what you are thinking. Is there even one Jew alive who has no frum ancestry? No. Are they all frum now? No.
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Ruchel, an illustrious background? Are you really the Kardashian that no one talks about?
And if a frum way of life is standing between me and pop culture, do I have to give up my Springsteen tickets? Because I really want to see The Boss.
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| Posted: Thu, Feb 23 2012, 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: re: Would you divorce over chillul shabbos? |
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| Quote: | | Judaism is very good to the woman. It may be harder for the man. It may be less obvious what's in it for him. Exactly because the woman is a queen and the man is restrained. And men are more impressed with science perhaps, and its seductive if nonsensical appearance of being soulless, which it isn't, and conferring power, which it doesn't. Power goes where Hashem wants it to go. | How are the men restrained in Judasism?
| Quote: | | I think the mother matters hugely; and a kid with a mother who believes will be fine. A rebel mother, or father too, should be discreet. It is a defect. Everybody certainly has defects, no one is immune, but they aren't to be celebrated. | Why does it have to be a defect?
| Quote: | | Anybody who thinks it isn't a defect should just look at the pop culture and realize there's nothing between you and that except a frum way of life. It only looks far away, unfortunately it is very near. It is no fun at all. It's broken. Let us be grateful for yiddishkeit, and if it's tiresome to go along with the program sometimes, it's still worth it. It really is where the Life is. And nothing good is free; what's very good has a high price. | You do know that there is a whole part of orthodox jews that immerse in pop culture and they are still wonderfully FRUM??? Why is it broken?
There are many many many people out in HaShem's world who are not frum and are not in any way shape or form broken.
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