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Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2012, 7:55 pm Post subject: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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Calling all the name scholars!
I've only ever heard this name among Lubavitchers (as Neshe, Ganessa, G'nesha and other variations), and would like to know how on EARTH such a name became Jewish.
Is it related at all to the Hindu elephant-headed deity (in the way that some say Queen Esther's name is related to the goddess Ishtar), or completely different? _________________ I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
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Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2012, 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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| bigsis144 wrote: | Calling all the name scholars!
I've only ever heard this name among Lubavitchers (as Neshe, Ganessa, G'nesha and other variations), and would like to know how on EARTH such a name became Jewish.
Is it related at all to the Hindu elephant-headed deity (in the way that some say Queen Esther's name is related to the goddess Ishtar), or completely different? |
There are quite a number of non chabad geneshas. I can rattle off a few right here in Monsey (admittedly, one large family has geneshas, but there are others as well. No clue about the source though. _________________ Live the life you want to live. Be the person you want to remember. Make decisions. Make mistakes. If you failed, at least you tried.
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Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2012, 8:12 pm Post subject: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2012, 8:23 pm Post subject: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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The name is from Gnendel and much older than chassidis.
Gnendel is a machlokes. From Gan Eden, gnadige (honoured), or Gnana (grandmother) _________________
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Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2012, 9:10 pm Post subject: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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| The Gnesha's in Monsey are all related. It's a family name and they do have Lubavitch roots, but not sure if thats where the name originates from.
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Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2012, 6:08 am Post subject: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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| I know Geneshas not from Monsey, but they're all descended from the same Genesha as the Monsey ones.
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Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2012, 6:57 am Post subject: Re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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| bigsis144 wrote: | Calling all the name scholars!
I've only ever heard this name among Lubavitchers (as Neshe, Ganessa, G'nesha and other variations), and would like to know how on EARTH such a name became Jewish.
Is it related at all to the Hindu elephant-headed deity (in the way that some say Queen Esther's name is related to the goddess Ishtar), or completely different? |
This was my first thought.
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Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2012, 7:05 am Post subject: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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| I'm Lubavitch and never heard of the name in Lubavitch. Actually I've barely heard of the name at all.
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Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2012, 7:05 am Post subject: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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We have genessa in the family. I was told that it comes not from Genendel but originally from something having to do with (I forget the greek term) love of G-d...anyhow it is translated into English as "grace" and into Hebrew often as "yedida" or "yedidya" for a boy. _________________ "Olam Chessed Yiboneh", Tehilim 89.
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Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2012, 9:35 am Post subject: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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| It doesn't sound Greek, and I don't recognize the root for love or G-d...
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Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2012, 11:18 am Post subject: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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| My mistake, asked Dh now and he said that from the German Genuesse (or something that sounds like that ) whose root is friend as in friend of the Lord, hence Yedida or Yedidya in Hebrew...
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Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2012, 11:32 am Post subject: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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| Interesting! can you ask him if it's an old German word? I also do not recognize it, but am losing my German by the day...
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Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2012, 11:37 am Post subject: Re: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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| freidasima wrote: | | My mistake, asked Dh now and he said that from the German Genuesse (or something that sounds like that ) whose root is friend as in friend of the Lord, hence Yedida or Yedidya in Hebrew... |
My family is Russian for generations back. Absolutly no connection to German Jews/German language.
I dont think this is the real meaning.
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Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2012, 11:43 am Post subject: re: Genesha (female Lubavitch name) |
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| Aren't there Russian Ber, Shayna, Golda, Mushka, Mendel...?
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