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Posted: Tue, Jan 10 2012, 7:20 pm Post subject: Seemingly insignificant actions with Spiritual Ramifications |
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Can someone explain or direct me to a place that explains how a seemingly insignificant physical actions can have great spiritual impact? Example: netilas yedayim. I understand it but I can't articulate it. I've been doing netilas yedayim my whole life and if I run out for whatever reason and forget I feel very strange until I do. (or when our water wasn't connected).
I'm not questioning the importance of it, or whether or not I should, but a few women asked me to teach them everyday things that Jews are supposed to do. Modeh Ani, Asher Yatzar, these are things they can relate to and understand.
But how can I explain that washing your hands in a specific manner gets rid of impurity? What does impurity mean? Purity?
PLEASE HELP! IT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS ZCHUS! IT'S YOUR SCHAR TOO IF YOU HELP ME INSPIRE THESE WOMEN!
(anon b/c I discussed this with people IRL and don't want them to recognize sn, thanks for understanding)
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Posted: Tue, Jan 10 2012, 7:44 pm Post subject: re: Seemingly insignificant actions with Spiritual Ramificat |
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A very simple way of explaining this is to refer to science.
There is so much in science we don't "see" or understand.
The best example are germs. For so long we didn't know of their existence.
There is a whole story of an obstetrician who discovered that the reason why there was so many birth fatalities was because there was a morgue on the hospital premises and doctors were going from working on dead bodies to delivering babies. He started making people at his own hospital wash up properly and the deaths went down drastically.
When he expounded on his theory he was ignored.
The end of the story is so sad because in the end he did lose his mind and died in an asylum because he saw all these preventable deaths occuring and didn't have the power to change it.
here is the story in wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis
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Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis[Note 1] (July 1, 1818 – August 13, 1865) was a Hungarian physician now known as an early pioneer of antiseptic procedures. Described as the "savior of mothers",[1] Semmelweis discovered that the incidence of puerperal fever could be drastically cut by the use of hand disinfection in obstetrical clinics.[1] Puerperal fever was common in mid-19th-century hospitals and often fatal, with mortality at 10%–35%. Semmelweis postulated the theory of washing with chlorinated lime solutions in 1847[1] while working in Vienna General Hospital's First Obstetrical Clinic, where doctors' wards had three times the mortality of midwives' wards. He published a book of his findings in Etiology, Concept and Prophylaxis of Childbed Fever.
Despite various publications of results where hand-washing reduced mortality to below 1%, Semmelweis's observations conflicted with the established scientific and medical opinions of the time and his ideas were rejected by the medical community. Some doctors were offended at the suggestion that they should wash their hands and Semmelweis could offer no acceptable scientific explanation for his findings. Semmelweis's practice earned widespread acceptance only years after his death, when Louis Pasteur confirmed the germ theory. In 1865, Semmelweis was committed to an asylum, where he died, ironically, of septicemia at age 47. |
So getting back to netilas yadayim we learn that it's mamash a sakana (danger) to touch oneselves or anyone else without having first washed your hands. From a spiritual perspective it's a major big deal. Physically we don't see it, but we also don't see what we physically know is dangerous.
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Posted: Tue, Jan 10 2012, 7:47 pm Post subject: re: Seemingly insignificant actions with Spiritual Ramificat |
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Just to clarify what I wrote above I'm not in anyway saying we wash netilas yadayim because of germs.
I'm using germs as an example of something we don't see but we know is there.
In the same vein there are ...lets call them "spiritual germs"
we don't see what is wrong with not washing netilas yadayim but we know we have to do it.
and by the way I know exactly what you mean when you say you feel weird if you haven't washed. I get the same sensation.
you should be keeping negel vasser near your bed so that it should be routine for you to reach over and wash before you even take a step. That way you'll never miss it
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Posted: Tue, Jan 10 2012, 7:50 pm Post subject: re: Seemingly insignificant actions with Spiritual Ramificat |
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one more thing
| Quote: | | But how can I explain that washing your hands in a specific manner gets rid of impurity? What does impurity mean? Purity? |
the impurity comes from sleep being a 60th of death
(did I get that percentage right? either way...) it's considered a partial death as the neshoma leaves the body to some extent.
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Posted: Tue, Jan 10 2012, 8:58 pm Post subject: re: Seemingly insignificant actions with Spiritual Ramificat |
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Thanks Raizle! That's an excellent way of putting it!
Thank you for attaching the story- it will add a lot. I realized you were using the germs as a mashal, not explanation.
To go one step further, though, why do you think we do something physical for a spiritual result? If impurity is spiritual, why not say a tefilla or something? I guess the two are interdependent (is that the right word?) Our souls are not a separate entity rather an intrinsic part of our being. Physical food has a spiritual element to it too.
Someone asked last week why we verbalize modeh ani, and tefillos in general. I told her much of what we do is based on human nature- Hashem created us so He knows what we need in order to maintain a connection to Him. If we would just think things, after a while we would slowly abridge it in our sleepy state of mind. Same thing with kissing mezuza- the point is to remind us of Hashem, just thinkiing probably wouldn't work, we need a physical act.
Sleep is 1/60 death (the Gemara says fire=1/60 gehennom, dreams=1/60 prophecy, shabbos=1/60 olam haba, and sleep=160death). I think one of the main reasons though is that we may have touched a part of our body that renders us impure, which is why we wash our hands after we go to the bathroom. I hope no one has issues with that. I'm paranoid when it comes to possible issues people may have...don't want to scare them away.
I am hoping to cover What it means to be impure/pure (as we can understand it, not claiming to know deepest secrets), how physical affects the spiritual, and why we wash our hands in the morning. And then of course, hoping that I don't scare them away, I will detail what you are supposed to do (which is what they requested in the first place).
Ok, that was a bit of a "blab."
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Posted: Tue, Jan 10 2012, 10:21 pm Post subject: re: Seemingly insignificant actions with Spiritual Ramificat |
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by the way I just recalled an incident that happened a little while ago that you don't need to share with the people you are speaking to but it might help you get your head around the concept of tuma even when you don't see it.
My husband always nudges me to get rid of the tomei water as soon as I can after I wash. Normally he does it but sometimes he has gone already and I neglect to. I find it especially hard in the middle of the night so one night I got up to go to the bathroom and washed negel vasser near my bed. I came back to bed and ignored the tomei water. In the morning my husband and I both shared the fact that we both seemed to have bad/disturbing dreams that night (the rest of it). He then noted the used negel vasser water and pointed out to me that we had been sleeping with tomei water in the room.
I've been carefull since then.
| Quote: | | To go one step further, though, why do you think we do something physical for a spiritual result? If impurity is spiritual | I'm no expert but I'd say it's because we live in a physical world and need to act accordingly without simply expecting it to happen on it's own. you can't say a brocha while you are impure so you need to take an action to purify yourself first.
Hashem created a physical world specifically for us to elevate it and release the spirituality in it. But you cannot do that without being involved with the physicality
I'm sure there is more to this in chassidus and I'll ask my husband later if he knows the explanation
One explanation which my daughter just gave is that every physical object has spirituality in it and around it.
I'm sure theres a lot more on this topic.
try doing a search on chabad.org for information on negel vasser
if I don't get back to you later or if no one else has answered please remind me.
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Posted: Tue, Jan 10 2012, 11:29 pm Post subject: re: Seemingly insignificant actions with Spiritual Ramificat |
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If youre talking about tuma in general point out the value which yiddishkeit places on life, and how any situation which in some way 'touches' death, requires coming back to tahara
so tumas meis is most severe tuma lasting longest with elaborate procedure incl mikva to achieve thara.
There is tuma from dead animals....not worry about today...with just Mikva, there is tuma from menstruating ie loss of potential life, even tuma post childbirth fits in as loss of life from within you...
So negel vasser would fit in perfectly with this
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