Has ImaMother Hit an all new low

Gold Member Joined: May 27 2010 Posts: 2142

I am very suprised and OFFENDED by the 'learning inside' thread being locked..

When its an Intimacy thread, thats shall we say not G rated, I still feel that were all adults, not High School girls, and either have no Intimacy forum at all, SPEAK TO YOUR ROV or respect that we are mature married women.. But wtvr, if some mothers feel uncomfortable when the thread gets too risque, I respect that...

If there is blatant Loshon Hara against a named individual, for sure delete it..

But here it is an intelligent debate, plain and simple..

And Yael basically said its my basebball and I am going home now..

That is her right, but I have learned to just come here for recipes, housekeeping tips, computer ideas, very valuable websites and links that help my parnosa, and other useful tidbits. And I am very appreciative and Maceh Tov to Yael for providing this..

But I wont waste my time on any intellectual discussion of any kind... Thats SAD, but it is what it is....

Posted: Mon, Dec 26 2011, 5:26 pm Post subject:

That debate was nowhere near intelligent anymore.

Platinum Member Joined: Sep 11 2004 Posts: 19241

(Doesn't "intellectual" come from the word "intelligent?")

An all new low is accusing a person of conviction that she'd do anything for money.

An all new low is when person who does the above complains about lack of intelligence from those around her.

An all new low is prejudice and hatred masquerading as intelligence.

An all new low is when the Chareidim are so sick of the diatribe that they need to ignore parts of this "frum" message board.

An all new low is when Yael allows Freidasima's anti-Chareidi rants to continue and then locks the threads only when people tell Freidasima she's wrong.

Intelligent? intellectual? Even my kids are smarter than this. Much more pleasant company as well.
_________________
The Chanukah licht transcends all.

Posted: Mon, Dec 26 2011, 5:40 pm Post subject:

Diamond Member Joined: Oct 19 2011 Posts: 2702

Oy, Depressed, Depressed, Depressed! You are truly naive Scratching Head

Don't you get it? If you dare post anything that a "macher" disagrees with, you're bashed. Black Eye

If you offend The Establishment, you're persona non grata Twisted Evil

If you play nice with their ball, you get to live Rolling Eyes

Anon because I'm honest. And a coward!! Rolling Laughter

PS I didn't read the thread you're referring to. I don't have to, the writing was on the wall as soon as I saw the title. Don't think for a minute that "recipes" is safe either!

I will not be here after this because I'll probably be traced, tracked, hacked & sacked! Wink

Nice knowing ya! Laughing

Gold Member Joined: May 27 2010 Posts: 2142

Platinum Member Joined: Jul 27 2007 Posts: 14811

Gold Member Joined: Aug 20 2007 Posts: 1308

I wish people wouldn't make what is a battle of wills between people with strong opinions into an MO vs chareidi battle. It sn't and all it does is make people feel unwelcome and attacked. If people would make the effort to debate civilly and not give into the reactionary desire to be rightall the time then we couldhave interestingdiscussions that don't descend intothe nonsensethat causes threads to be locked.

Diamond Member Joined: Nov 12 2005 Posts: 2715

I'll be honest, it took me a while to try to debate here because of how everyone always complains about the dynamics of what goes on here. But then something came up that interested me and I took the bait. Well, there is nothing about what goes on here that is truly a debate and here are some examples:

-In a debate, either both sides can bring personal examples or none can. The playing field must be even. When one person gives an example of a personal experience they had they cannot be told "don't paint everyone with the same brush", but when others give a personal example their irregular example has to be taken as a fault with everyone in their community.

-In a debate, when I say something it should be taken at face value and then refuted if you disagree, and then I can do the same for you. It is not a debate if when you don't like what I say, you say I'm being ridiculous and I don't know what I am talking about, but when I call you on something you say, you say I am attacking you.

_In a debate either both sides fight dirty and it is okay with both, or both sides agree to keep it clean. It is not a debate when one side calls the other names and puts them down and then when the other responds in kind, the first side cries victim.

- In a debate there is an equal amount of people stating their points, not one individual yelling and screaming and putting everyone down so that even those who have something inttelligent and worthwhile to say are eventually scared away and then the one bully is left gloating and saying that she must be right because no one has the strength or sanity left to stand up against her.

No my friends, this is not debate (which I happen to enjoy) It is an elementary school playground!!

Funny how the censorship only goes in one direction. I guess if you raise girls to switch off their brains, you can't actually make interesting points in an argument and so must result to censorship. Sad ...

(Anon because I considered some of the posters in that awful thread to be friends, and while I'm not sure I still feel that way, I don't need them putting me in cherem.)

Posted: Mon, Dec 26 2011, 6:42 pm Post subject:

Posted: Mon, Dec 26 2011, 6:46 pm Post subject:

Platinum Member Joined: Jul 27 2007 Posts: 14811

Sorry to be my usual obtuse self, and perhaps I'd better get back to writing about crock pots, cupcakes and all the other gripping stuff I should be doing (or even going to bed which is what normal folk do at 1:26 am), BUT:

Why take it all so seriously?

Ladies, ladies, and ladies again (and dare I still say, "Ladies"): It's a message board, it's Internet. It's a place to sound off, get support, and chat and EVEN SCREAM IF YOU WANT TO. But it's only the Internet. Why take it all so personally and so seriously?

Maybe some people are favoured on here, and maybe others are not. And maybe others feel that no one is even reading their posts. But - so? Does this make you any less of a human being at the end of the day (or even pay the bills?)

No?

So take all the argy bargy and criticism with a big pinch of salt and don't get so intense about it!!!!