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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 10:22 pm Post subject: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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Can someone please tell me the source for the prohibition of eating fish and meat together? And why we can eat on eimmediately following another,but not simultaneously.Thank you _________________ If you cant make me laugh, don't bother speaking
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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 10:24 pm Post subject: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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| We don't eat it together because of health reasons, it is not treif.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 10:50 pm Post subject: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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The gemara says it is a sakanah. (a danger) That's where the minhag of a l'chaim in middle of the Shabbos meal came from, after the fish people want to drink something before eating meat. _________________ Visit HelpEllen.com whenever you shop at Amazon.com!
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Not treif, and it's a MINHAG. _________________ Emmanuel Tzvi: 26 Shevat 5766
Shai Michael: 8 Cheshvan 5768
Yitzchak Meir: 19 Iyar 5770
Dvir Aharon: 10 Tammuz 5772
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Posted: Thu, Dec 01 2011, 8:28 am Post subject: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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| not tfeif, just dont eat it together if u drink something in between its fine,
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| Marion wrote: | | Not treif, and it's a MINHAG. |
It's not a minhag (which would imply only some communities keep it) - it's halacha, but as people already said, because of danger not because of kashrus. _________________ "The problem begins with... their political hangers oners... such as Anat Hoffman. She is a davener like I am a chinese belly dancer." (FS)
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Posted: Thu, Dec 01 2011, 8:45 am Post subject: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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| Does anyone know what makes it dangerous? I'm not disputing, just really interested.
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Posted: Thu, Dec 01 2011, 9:33 am Post subject: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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Here's ask.moses on the subject.
http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/555,2079830/Why-arent-fish-and-meat-eaten-together.html
It is not halacha. If you inadvertently mix thetwo, say you are at an affair which serves both meat and fish dishes side by side, you haven't treifed anything up. _________________ But then again, I'm a dragon.
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Posted: Thu, Dec 01 2011, 11:30 am Post subject: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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This is one of those things that I always think was based on some faulty reasoning that doesn't really apply anymore. Of course I still follow it but is there any medical evidence that it is dangerous?
Also at weddings there are a lot of times a shmorg w/sushi and fish and carving stations.... are people so careful to drink in between when they eat all of the stuff? It gets mixed up very easily!
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Posted: Thu, Dec 01 2011, 11:37 am Post subject: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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| In some places I've read to rinse ur mouth and some said drinking is just fine. Its due to health.
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Posted: Thu, Dec 01 2011, 11:38 am Post subject: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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| In some places I've read to rinse ur mouth and some said drinking is just fine. Its due to health.
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Posted: Thu, Dec 01 2011, 11:39 am Post subject: Re: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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| shoeboxgirly wrote: | | Does anyone know what makes it dangerous? I'm not disputing, just really interested. |
I can certainly foresee and issue surrounding cooking them together, due to very different cooking times...but anyone got any ideas, perhaps there is some kind of mystical stuff about it?
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Posted: Thu, Dec 01 2011, 11:48 am Post subject: Re: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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| princessleah wrote: | This is one of those things that I always think was based on some faulty reasoning that doesn't really apply anymore. Of course I still follow it but is there any medical evidence that it is dangerous?
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I agree with this.
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Posted: Thu, Dec 01 2011, 2:28 pm Post subject: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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| Thanks,everyone.I always wondered about it. It's just strange that you can have a piece of sushi immediately followed by a meat calzone,but not have them simultaneously
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Posted: Thu, Dec 01 2011, 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: re: Fish and meat -why treif together |
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| DrMom wrote: | | princessleah wrote: | This is one of those things that I always think was based on some faulty reasoning that doesn't really apply anymore. Of course I still follow it but is there any medical evidence that it is dangerous?
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I agree with this. |
http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=1657
This goes into the halacha a bit more.
It was based on the fear of tsaraat.
I think medically it is no longer necessary, most people still follow the injunction however more out of respect then anything else (I think).
It was really more about cooking then eating.
A Rabbi in the community stated the S.A. is a combination of halacha, minhag and hahagah tova and chumrah. You have to know the sources to know which is which etc.
The science was the best they knew at the time.
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