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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: re: Hatzolah-Finds-2-Year-Old-Child-Wandering-Streets-At |
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| Raizle wrote: | | sarahla wrote: | BH he was find but does anyone thinks its weird that at 4:20 am they saw their son missing...and how exactly did he get out of the house
I mean I know I check on my kids before I go to sleep so maybe the mom went to sleep late but still that doesn't answer how the child was able to come out of his house unoticed especially if we play scenario that mom was awake ...  |
so you think that she was up untill 4.20 and only decided to check on him then?
or do you think parents are supposed to wake up every half hour to check on their kids at night?
| Quote: | | especially if we play scenario that mom was awake |
why should she have been awake? |
excuse my being naive but yeah it sounded weird to me and no I dont think parents should wake every 30 min to check on their kids!!!
to me it just sounded strange that all ...call me naive, stupid ect... all you want I was just wandering
thanks for the OP who posted what happened...it is very scary and yeah bbsiter must have really been scared since it was under her watch.
As for when it happened the first time on YK I cant beleive pp dont lock their door in that neighood, I ALWAYS lock my door, even when I was living in a place with only Jews I lock it ( I guess this is my city girl insticts)
In any case BH babe was find and it is scary regardless of how it happens. Again sorry if I offended/upset anyone with my outloud wandering, it wasn't my intentions
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 10:33 pm Post subject: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At 4AM |
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I wasn't offended I just couldn't figure out what seemed so strange to you.
It sounded like you think mothers are supposed to be watching their kids all night instead of sleeping
The ONLY thing that remains a question is what kind of lock did they have that a 2 year old could work his way out of
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 11:08 pm Post subject: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At 4AM |
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I know this Mom, she is often seen sitting outdoors in the warm weather, watching her children. She appears to be a very watchful caring Mom and not laid back at all. _________________ If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 11:17 pm Post subject: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At 4AM |
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This story sent chills up my spine. Wow, and I thought I had active children...chasdei Hashem that things turned out well.
The discussion here reminds me of the time 1.5-yr.-old dd pulled out the cotton and removed her (temporary) cast in her crib during the night. A nurse at the orthopedist's office asked me if we don't watch our kids, how did dd get the cast off? I responded that I'm sure she must be a better mother and likely sleeps with her baby in the crib to prevent her from doing mischief.
Just a thought.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 11:46 pm Post subject: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At 4AM |
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When I was a wee one back in the day, my mother put me out in the front yard in a playpen. 30+ years ago, this was a completely safe thing to do in Monsey. She kept the front door open while she was in the house. I tore a hole through the netting, crawled out, crawled down the driveway (which was really downhill), onto the road (a very quiet street), and stopped in middle of the road. A car saw me, and started beeping. It took a good few minutes for my mother to feel/realize that something is up. _________________ Live the life you want to live. Be the person you want to remember. Make decisions. Make mistakes. If you failed, at least you tried.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 11:56 pm Post subject: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At 4AM |
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| Why not install an additional lock that the child can't reach? I did that when my son could open the regular doornob.
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Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At |
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| Squishy wrote: | | Why not install an additional lock that the child can't reach? I did that when my son could open the regular doornob. |
Now they sure will. People do that after their kid wandered the streets.
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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 12:18 am Post subject: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At 4AM |
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Here are my few horror stories.
When I was 2, I walked out unnoticed in broad daylight and my mother found me walking with a non-jewish black guy who was looking for our house....
When my son was 12 months he managed to crawl out of the house when one of the kids who had left earlier didn't shut the door and the wind blew it open. I can't begin telling you all the panic and fright we lived through those 30 minutes, only to be told by the nice lady who watched him and waited for us, that he was missing for over an hour!
My brother dropped his 2.5 yr old early one morning to tend his laboring wife in the hospital, and left him playing in our play area. Dear brother did not lock the door! The kid went out of the house looking for the father and was discovered by a neighbor who didn't recognize him because he doesn't live here! Oh the panic until we found him! And we never told his father! _________________ Because it's good!
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Dh, at age 3, let the house and walked 3 miles to his fathers store. Stopping once at a gas station to ask directions!! (no idea why they didnt stop him at the gas station.)
I work at the mikvah most nights. I go out the back door and come in that way too. One motzei shabbos my tenants called me there to say dd (age 3?)was in their house. They had come home after being away for shabbos and found her sitting on the front porch-waiting for me to come home. As I go in and out the back door, I would have just come in, locked all doors and gone to bed-never would have occurred to me to check the front porch!
Same dd went missing one day. Was ready to call the police when I found her-sleeping on the bottom shelf of a bookcase that was blocked by a mirror. _________________ If you're gonna be blue, be bright blue!
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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 12:59 am Post subject: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At 4AM |
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| These stories are making me shvach, I better stop right here.
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| Hashem_Yaazor wrote: | What's all the bafflement about? You've never met a kid who managed to climb out of a crib? Who knew how to open doors? Sometimes they learn this mamish overnight. Or in the middle of the night.
Hashem should watch over all our children.
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Exactly. I have an almost 8 year old with developmental delays. I have had her leave the house in her pj's at 6:00 and walk around outside because Abba went to shul and left the door unlocked. So now we're very careful to lock the door and hide the key! _________________ “All that is thought should not be said. All that is said should not be written. All that is written should not be published. All that is published should not be read.”
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when my son was 2ish we woke up at 7am to the doorbell ringing. a lady was standing at the door with my son. she said he was standing at the corner and when she asked where he lived, he pointed out our house. I was asleep, and he just left. these things happen. _________________ "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things!!" - Steven Tyler

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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 2:36 am Post subject: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At 4AM |
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I am quite the overprotective parent, however during a move, my 3 year old nephew, my 2 year old daughter and my 2 year old niece suddenly disappeared (The door was watched less closely that day).
I was sure my daughter would be somewhere in the house because of her fear of leaving anywhere without me, however after 2-3 minutes of searching the house I realized that in the house she definitely is not!
I ran up the street, sending my brother the other side, when suddenly I see my nephew without the girls coming down the train-station steps. I freaked, freaked, freaked out. I imagined the 2 girls on the train tracks already.
I ran up the steps and found them at the top of the stairs. When I started chastising them, my 3 year old nephew calmly tells me not to yell at them because he gave them permission and he was watching over them.
I still cry when I think about this story. May G-D keep his eyes on his children...
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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 2:03 pm Post subject: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At 4AM |
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There are malachim potecting our children constantly!
My son was 20 months old at time. I never knew he can climb out of crib. One night about 4:30 I heard the door chain, I woke up my husband saying someone is breaking in. We got up to find our 20 month old, he dragged his highchair and a regular chair. got from the chair, to his high chair to the chain. and he figured out how to open the chain! B''H a million times over that I got "woken' up from (Hashem!) it.
I am a little nervous type with these things. Now we lock door with key and take key out. But htis is not either best scenario. ChasVshalom if someone has a fire, they're gonna start looking for the key. We keep it in the same place, on top of fridge. Hashem should just continue to watch over us, bec. if chas vshalom someone has fire these locks are very dangerous that the key is not in the door.
Let's all judge our friends favorably!
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OMG I cannot handle these stories. they are making me weak with fear.
the only good thing I keep reading is how kind people can be. after what happened in Boro Park this past summer I was getting "evil world syndrome" these stories remind me how kind people are and how they look to protect little children- from that taxi driver, to hatzoloh, to that black man, to the neighbor....
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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At |
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| Liebs wrote: | There are malachim potecting our children constantly!
My son was 20 months old at time. I never knew he can climb out of crib. One night about 4:30 I heard the door chain, I woke up my husband saying someone is breaking in. We got up to find our 20 month old, he dragged his highchair and a regular chair. got from the chair, to his high chair to the chain. and he figured out how to open the chain! B''H a million times over that I got "woken' up from (Hashem!) it.
I am a little nervous type with these things. Now we lock door with key and take key out. But htis is not either best scenario. ChasVshalom if someone has a fire, they're gonna start looking for the key. We keep it in the same place, on top of fridge. Hashem should just continue to watch over us, bec. if chas vshalom someone has fire these locks are very dangerous that the key is not in the door.
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that's exactly what I thought of when I read about people hiding the keys
it's so dangerous if you need to get out in a hurry. One must find another solution
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Posted: Wed, Nov 30 2011, 7:11 pm Post subject: re: Hatzolah Finds 2-Year-Old Child Wandering Streets At 4AM |
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| we put up a number lock that you need to have to use both of your hands at the same time to get out, the door handel and the number lock dial.
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