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Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2012, 9:13 pm Post subject: re: If you teach in NYC public school, let's talk! |
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| I am working towards the same goal, getting my masters in special ed and then getting into public school. If there s anyone out theer in Monsey who works in the county, or even in Saddle River, and can tell me what its like, what kind of salaries you get, etc..I wuld love to hear from u!!
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Posted: Mon, Nov 19 2012, 3:38 am Post subject: Re: re: If you teach in NYC public school, let's talk! |
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| nicole81 wrote: | iIMO, better to get your foot in the door now and reach top salary as early as possible.
However if it helps, either as a positive or as a deterrant, IIRC, the take home salary of a first year teacher without a master's is around $2400 monthly, and I'm guessing around $400 more with a master's. Not too much. |
Color me naive, but I'm missing something. According to the chart here http://schools.nyc.gov/nr/rdonlyres/eddb658c-be7f-4314-85c0-03f5a00b8a0b/0/salary.pdf even the lower salaries divided by 12 months per year come out near $4000 a month. You mentioned a couple of hundred dollars' worth of deductions. Are taxes alone really high enough to knock that all the way down to $2400?! That would just cover my rent and one preschool tuition, and that's without any food or babysitting! Help! I'm starting to think making it in life is hopeless For me, that would be like working almost twice as many hours for very similar take home pay, the only advantage would be health insurance which I hear is not the greatest anymore anyway. And the predictability of having the same amount of work/pay every month, plus getting paid for the full year even without scrounging for summer work. Still seems like a raw deal if I don't have any change left at the end of the month!
Someone please help and tell me what to do with my life
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Posted: Mon, Nov 19 2012, 5:09 pm Post subject: re: If you teach in NYC public school, let's talk! |
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I'm in the system. I teach high school math in east ny. No, I'm not crazy. Its just a job that pays great and gives me time to take care of my family. So I don't take it personal. Just smile and talk to whoever smiles and talks to you. Talk to the principal as you are talking to a king/queen. Buy some pizza for the classroom eventually. Yes, you have to organize your stuff the night before, sometimes you have to deal with parents u wish u wouldn't know, sometimes you have to swallow garbage from students, but I'm very happy with my choice.
I was looking for a job, and a friend told about teaching. So I applied and I got in. ( my background is statistics , it wasn't hard to get in at all, there wasn't many ppl willing to teach math. It looks like they like ppl with very specific background, like marine biology or sth). Way too many ppl in special ed.
And the best students ll always be the chinese.
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Posted: Mon, Nov 19 2012, 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: re: If you teach in NYC public school, let's talk! |
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| amother wrote: | I'm in the system. I teach high school math in east ny. No, I'm not crazy. Its just a job that pays great and gives me time to take care of my family. So I don't take it personal. Just smile and talk to whoever smiles and talks to you. Talk to the principal as you are talking to a king/queen. Buy some pizza for the classroom eventually. Yes, you have to organize your stuff the night before, sometimes you have to deal with parents u wish u wouldn't know, sometimes you have to swallow garbage from students, but I'm very happy with my choice.
I was looking for a job, and a friend told about teaching. So I applied and I got in. ( my background is statistics , it wasn't hard to get in at all, there wasn't many ppl willing to teach math. It looks like they like ppl with very specific background, like marine biology or sth). Way too many ppl in special ed.
And the best students ll always be the chinese. |
I was under the impression that in order to teach in a NYC public school, you need to have an education degree.
(If you have a Math degree you can't teach Math w/o a degree in education.)
Am I wrong?
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Posted: Mon, Nov 19 2012, 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: re: If you teach in NYC public school, let's talk! |
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| Cookies n Cream wrote: | | amother wrote: | I'm in the system. I teach high school math in east ny. No, I'm not crazy. Its just a job that pays great and gives me time to take care of my family. So I don't take it personal. Just smile and talk to whoever smiles and talks to you. Talk to the principal as you are talking to a king/queen. Buy some pizza for the classroom eventually. Yes, you have to organize your stuff the night before, sometimes you have to deal with parents u wish u wouldn't know, sometimes you have to swallow garbage from students, but I'm very happy with my choice.
I was looking for a job, and a friend told about teaching. So I applied and I got in. ( my background is statistics , it wasn't hard to get in at all, there wasn't many ppl willing to teach math. It looks like they like ppl with very specific background, like marine biology or sth). Way too many ppl in special ed.
And the best students ll always be the chinese. |
I was under the impression that in order to teach in a NYC public school, you need to have an education degree.
(If you have a Math degree you can't teach Math w/o a degree in education.)
Am I wrong? |
There are exceptions to every rule... You need to have a teacher's certificate but there are different ways to get it, usually while working towards an education degree even if you don't have it yet.
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Posted: Mon, Nov 19 2012, 9:45 pm Post subject: re: If you teach in NYC public school, let's talk! |
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| I teach in a title 1 vy inner city public high school in nyc. Tough kids. I'm young with a baby's home. Pm me if u have qs
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Posted: Mon, Nov 19 2012, 9:45 pm Post subject: re: If you teach in NYC public school, let's talk! |
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| Sorry autocorrect messed up my post
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Posted: Mon, Nov 19 2012, 10:56 pm Post subject: re: If you teach in NYC public school, let's talk! |
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Seeker, I'm sure I'm not giving you any new ideas here, but I'm wondering if you would consider working with kids one one one during evening hours. I'm not sure what your current job is but I get the picture you're either seit or P3? I know of some SEITs/P3s who get more hours in at night. For school kids who can't be taken out during school hours (either they don't want, parents don't want, school doesn't let, etc..).
Though I have to tell you that these people I know are in brooklyn, where there is a plethora of kids needing special ed. I don't know if you live there or if the situation is the same where you live.
Because if you can do something like that to add to your salary. Say you take on just one kid for 2 evenings a week, an hour session. That's 8 more hours a month and another few hundred dollars. (using the current rates of nyc doe, I think)
Hard to find a babysitter though. Though maybe kid can come to your house.
Anyways, was just wondering if you consdiered this. IF it can't work, can you just add some more hours to your morning hours? I'm confused because you say you work so much less than public school hours, yet the kind of work is better/easier. So I would say hey why not first try adding hours to the current situation and see if you can handle that..
But yeah it's hard to get seit/p3 jobs now so could be you tried and didn't work.
Whatever, just trying to help. I wish you hatzlacha!
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Posted: Mon, Nov 19 2012, 11:32 pm Post subject: re: If you teach in NYC public school, let's talk! |
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Yes basically I have one of those by-the-case jobs and there just aren't so many cases. Plus, they don't come with any benefits or time off or anything so even though by the hour it pays much more, over the course of a year and after paying self employment tax and your own health insurance and all that, it ends up not being that great. Evening is pretty self-limiting and also deeply cuts into family time, maybe it's a solution for singles or newlyweds but soon my kids will be in school and that will really be klutzy.
I'd still probably look for ways to make my current type of job work, but at the same time I need to seriously look into full time employment options. SIGH. Wish it weren't so.
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Posted: Mon, Nov 26 2012, 12:43 am Post subject: re: If you teach in NYC public school, let's talk! |
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This topic interests me alot as well. I am currently a private school teacher, and my goal is to one day work for a public school. My dream would be as a kindergarten teacher. But I have to say, although I have a MS in ED and SPED, I do feel utterly lacking when it comes to the world of DOE and Public School. I do not feel ready to step in and take the role of teacher, although I do a great job in my jewish school.
Is the take home salary really only 2800? I do need insurance, and the pension and benefits seem excellent... I just feel that the whole application process, getting into a school, and the hours.. how do you manage? I have a baby and a three year old, and I feel somewhat that I cant work for the DOE until my youngest is in first grade. But that puts off a lot of years of salary increase...
What are your hours? Is there such a thing as a part time job?
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