WWYD - Have an "Open Sukkah" or Not? Need to decid

Posted: Sun, Oct 09 2011, 10:33 am Post subject:

I wouldn't and have a big sign explaining why... and encourage my neighbors to do the same.
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What Rubber Ducky says.

Posted: Sun, Oct 09 2011, 10:41 am Post subject:

Closing the sukkah at eleven pm sounds like a good idea. I would only put out drinks and have those that neeeed to use a sukkah come with their own food. If it gets messy then don't keep it open for the rest of the succos and put on a sign that due to the huge mess we had to keep our sukkah locked, sorry...
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After doing this for years she knows there will be a mess. And she said there is no way to lock the sukkah.

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Your first mistake was printing the signs on Hot Pink oaktag - such an untsnius color, they didn't look at it Very Happy

Seriously, you have done more than enough. Give yourself a break.

This seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen. If someone should get hurt in and on your property you could be in a lot of trouble.

I am with Shalhevet. I can understand opening the Sukkah to families that haven't one, or putting yourself on a list to have a family or Yeshiva Bachur/Seminary girl etc. for a meal or so. But no...this?

One bottle of maskeh and a check isn't going to cover it, and between the expense, the aggravation and potential liability issue, I would say NO.
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Platinum Member Joined: Sep 11 2004 Posts: 19241

Aidelmaidel- Just say No. Every morning of Sukkos this year you'll wake up with no mess to clean and you'll be so relieved.

Sorry, but usually the people who stay up all night are the ones who can't figure out where their paper cup belongs when they're done drinking from it. Rolling Eyes

Btw, our sukkah is kind of open only because it's in a central place and obvious, and I'm always amazed at people who bring packages of cookies there or whatever and leave their garbage. No, we don't have a garbage can in our sukkah, but I'm sure that they can figure out a solution to that just like I can. Rolling Eyes

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I don't know anyone who does this, and personally wouldn't consider it.
I am not familiar with people going into strangers' sukka like that? they would certainly ask before, if they even dared asking!
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I grew up in NY and the kids (not Lubavitch) who wanted to hang out would go to Crown Heights for a "simchas beis hashoeva."
Why you would want to have a bunch of kids' aveiros on your head is beyond me. Let someone else get the "mitzvah."

Posted: Sun, Oct 09 2011, 6:13 pm Post subject:

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Shalhevet, it was the Rebbe�s request that simchas beis hashoeva be all night. Even the nights of Yom Tov, when there is no music, there will still be bochurim dancing at 6 a.m. rain or not. Alot of the bochurim join together for an inspiring farbrengen before heading out to dancing--that is the purpose of the kol dichfin succas. Aidel�s succa is an obvious abuse of the system.

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So I went back to this thread from last year: http://imamother.com/forum/vie.....p;lighter=

After a long discussion with my husband and mashpia, I agreed not to do it. Since there are other Kol Dichfin sukkahs on our block, I was told I need not feel guilty. I let it go and since I had told the guy I would call him back if we were doing it I let it go.

He actually called back tonight to check in and I told him sadly, I couldn't do it because I can't handle the clean up work this year, but to please consider us for next year. He agreed and said he would call us next year.

So there you have it. Thanks for all your advice!
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Platinum Member Joined: May 07 2008 Posts: 8960

I think you posted a rant last year about this; right? Story and details sound familiar.

You know that Einstein's definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. In your shoes I would say absolutely not ever again unless you're prepared to get the same results as last year without complaint. Maybe it was the surprise that bothered you last year and this year you know what to expect. If that's the case, you go, girl. But if you will resent having to clean up after a bunch of pigs--

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Beginner Joined: Oct 09 2011 Posts: 1

We were in your situation a few years back. We asked a Rav and he told us that to stop , but we should be "Mevater Neder "( with three people present ) , because we had done it for a lot of years.

Best of luck with the whole situation.
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Posted: Wed, Oct 12 2011, 1:04 am Post subject:

Maybe by next year you'll have a way to lock the Sukkah after a certain time.
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