What Would You Do if There Were not Enough Food for Unexpected Guests on Shabbat
Cut Food into Smaller Pieces, or Plate, so Everyone Gets Something
15%
[ 28 ]
Fnd something in refrigerator to add, even if its not Shabbasdik
25%
[ 46 ]
Find a Way to Repurpose the Food, like making it into a salad
7%
[ 14 ]
My husband and/or I wouldn't take
29%
[ 53 ]
We would tell female kids not to take, and to eat cereal in kitchen instead
1%
[ 2 ]
We would tell all kids not to take, and to eat cereal in kitchen later
0%
[ 1 ]
Wouldn't happen, I always make enough for an army
14%
[ 27 ]
I would find another place for the people to go
1%
[ 3 ]
Other (explain)
4%
[ 8 ]
Total Votes : 182
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Posted: Mon, Aug 15 2011, 11:53 pm Post subject: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
Why would one want silly magazines in one's house? One can buy or subscribe to the New Yorker, the Atlantic, the Economist, Commentary, New Scientist... interesting magazines.
It's not a moral or hashkafic issue so much as... why fill your mind with junk? _________________ We must love one another or die.
Posted: Mon, Aug 15 2011, 11:54 pm Post subject: Re: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
DrMom wrote:
Raisin wrote:
freidasima wrote:
You really don't allow family circle, women's day, good housekeeping or ladies home journal into your home?
I've never heard of that among any American MOs, only the yeshivish.
I don't read those magazines except occasionally in drs waiting rooms so I am not 100% sure of the content but perhaps Drmom doesn't like them becasue they are mindless and boring and talk about fashion and s-x and so on. She probably prefers her kids read magazines with some content such as national geographic, newsweek and so on.
Exactly.
I may flip through a battered copy in the doctor's waiting room (well, not in EY -- no magazines in kupat holim!), but my reaction is always the same: Gosh, who reads this stuff?
Me too. Though the recipes were ok, but most of the articles, feh. Give me Scientific American any day. Or World & I, fantastic magazine! Anyone else know if it? If I could I would definitely have a subscription to that magazine. Tops. _________________ But then again, I'm a dragon.
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— Fyodor Dostoevsky (via cosmic-rebirth)
Posted: Mon, Aug 15 2011, 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
sequoia wrote:
Why would one want silly magazines in one's house? One can buy or subscribe to the New Yorker, the Atlantic, the Economist, Commentary, New Scientist... interesting magazines.
It's not a moral or hashkafic issue so much as... why fill your mind with junk?
Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 12:00 am Post subject: Re: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
sequoia wrote:
Why would one want silly magazines in one's house? One can buy or subscribe to the New Yorker, the Atlantic, the Economist, Commentary, New Scientist... interesting magazines.
It's not a moral or hashkafic issue so much as... why fill your mind with junk?
Why do I come on imamother instead of a more intellectual site? Sometimes I just want to decompress and shut off my brain after a full day as a working professional, mommy and wife. I will admit to having OK magazine in my bathroom. I also subscribe to professional journals, Newsweek, Businessweek, etc. I like having my options open. I guess I'm not as intellectual as most of you are.
Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 4:29 am Post subject: Re: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
If one feels 14 yr old kids need to know details (not sure why - big difference between knowing nothing until one week pre marriage and knowing almost a decade in advance!), better explain them personally, with kedusha and a Jewish way, not from nasty articles that don't have the right values anyway.
If I read Cosmo I would throw it out after or "edit" it. But these women mags are so boring I have a hard time reading them even at the doc...
I'm all for black dolls, why not?
Saw a Chanel shooting, yup the models are photoshopped. They are actually that thin, but less curvy and certainly don't have any healthy face glow or shiny hair. And the make up they are supposed to use, well often it is something else, another brand or product. Yay. _________________
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Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 5:23 am Post subject: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
THANK YOU MARINA!
You are soooo right.
Ladies I didn't know that you are so intellectual! Kudos to you.
I guess you are also so psychologically strong that you never need any intellectual letdown.
And I guess I do.
Maybe it's because I regularly WRITE for magazines such as the Economist, and for quite a number of many professional psychological journals as part of my work.
So when I get home, I - like many of my peers in high pressure jobs - like to totally decompress intellectually and read....ladies magazines!
You are all obviously so much more cultured than I am, more intellectual than I am, more eidel than I am, more frum than I am, more successful personally and professional than I am, have much more ahavas yisroel and aidelkeit than I do...so none of you would go NEAR such magazines.
Wow! I just take my hat off to you!!!!
I guess I will keep to my "junky ladies magazines" as you call them and you keep to your intellectual pursuits.
Dovdov, I guess people in my circles think that Imamother is rather beneath them. Maybe that's why they aren't on this site. Maybe I am more into equality than I thought only it's not between genders but different kinds or classes of women.
Oh and almost forgot, Leesah you never have to worry about eating at my house or having your ears talked off because among other things a number of posters on this and other threads keep repeating that one should just tell uninvited guests in the door that they should go elsewhere. Maybe they are right so if you show up, don't worry. I'll practice it first on you! _________________ "Olam Chessed Yiboneh", Tehilim 89.
Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 5:50 am Post subject: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
My goodness, for someone who spent at least 3 threads telling all of the other posters why our shittot are inferior, you sure are defensive.
I guess that's the way you "sophisticated" folks write (when you are not writing for the Wall St Journal or the Economist or Nature or The New England Journal of Medicine.)
I just don't enjoy the same leisure reading material you do, okay? We all have our guilty pleasures -- Ladies' Home Journal just isn't one of mine.
Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 7:54 am Post subject: Re: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
freidasima wrote:
You really don't allow family circle, women's day, good housekeeping or ladies home journal into your home?
I've never heard of that among any American MOs, only the yeshivish.
FS, those magazines are VERY different than cosmo.
growing up, we had newsweek in the house. That was the only magazine. A friend of my father's, who is a dentist, one came onver with a very large stack of seventeen magazine (probably at least 30 magazines) and I had never read them before.
Many MO families dont have those magazines in their homes.
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Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 10:00 am Post subject: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
well Shabbat maybe things in America have changed among some of the MOs because I can tell you that in my elementary school and junior high class there wasn't a girl that didn't read "sixteen" and in 9th grade there wasn't a girl who didn't read "seventeen" and by the time we were in 11th we were all reading Glamour and as we got older we all - and I'm talking hundreds of girls in my school - would pass around copies when get together of things like Ladies home journal, family circle and women's day. Some read Cosmo, some didn't, but most of the ladies magazines had articles about the biology of relations. Positions, ladies, are biology. Maximum penetration is usually suggested for women who are TTC. And even Cosmo has tame topics just jazzed up in their spin, titles and the like.
And the frum women that I know, work with abroad, my famly and all their friends, the daughters (all married, the age of the average imamother poster from what I see) and daughters in law, and like all read some form of Ladies magazines for relaxation. And I can tell you that NONE of them have ever read Mishpacha, Bina or have probably even HEARD of these magazines.
I think that Imamother gets a pretty right wing crowd in general especially among the MOs. There are lots of reasons for it, center and left wing MOs are usually made to feel uncomfortable on the board, I've seen them come and go and your average MO does not usually hang around here for long as it's a very different and much more right wing and machmir world than the one they are comfortable with.
So if five or ten posters from the MO world on Imamother say that they would NEVER read ANY of these women's magazines or have them in their house, allow me to not necessarily conclude that this is representative of the larger American and English MO world but rather representative of Imamother.
I don't discuss it a lot here, but I read. I get a lot of new books from the library. I also like to read self help and a variety of all kinds of books. I always have my Hold list full. However, despite the fact that I have 2 library accounts, I wait a long time for books to come in.
So, I subscribe to magazines, and again, a great variety; but not literary or such; I like ladies magazines. I mainly read them on the train and whereas I'm not proud of myself, it's about all that I can concentrate on at that time of day.
We currently subscribe to Popular Science. We are too cheap to get other magazines (we got 3 years of free subscriptions). But DH and I are both engineers so...
My mother gets people and newsweek. Cosmo and Glamour??? No.
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Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 11:09 am Post subject: Re: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
Tamiri wrote:
No one here reads her husband's Playboy.... for the articles?
Well, at least the women in Playboy have breasts. They don't use emaciated 12 year olds. Speaking of which,has anyone else been reading about the 10 year-old French model, repeatedly photographed for French Vogue and other magazines in a zexualized manner. See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....model.html _________________ "I dig every second
I can laugh in the snow and rain
I get a buzz from being cold and wet
The pleasure seems to balance out the pain."
Pete Townshend
Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 11:14 am Post subject: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
I read People (and other trashy magazines) in the doctor's waiting room, because I don't want to concentrate when I'm going to be called soon (I hope!) I used to read The Atlantic, but their goal lately seems to be to write controversial pieces for the sake of it, which just makes me throw the thing across the room in disgust.
But I have a limited budget for magazine subscriptions, and the newsstand prices are crazy these days, so my subscription money has to be prioritized. People et al just aren't worth the money, and the content isn't that original. I can read silly celebrity gossip anywhere, for free.
The women's magazines don't appeal to me and never have. I never read Seventeen either. Although the "cool" magazine when I was in high school was Sassy, if any of you remember that--you'd have to be very close to my age though!
I would only consider myself "representative" when it comes to Cosmo if we're talking about feminists, who in my acquaintance deride the magazine as faux-empowerment.
Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 11:39 am Post subject: Re: re: Spinoff ... If There's Not Enough Food on Shabbat
Barbara wrote:
Tamiri wrote:
No one here reads her husband's Playboy.... for the articles?
Well, at least the women in Playboy have breasts. They don't use emaciated 12 year olds. Speaking of which,has anyone else been reading about the 10 year-old French model, repeatedly photographed for French Vogue and other magazines in a zexualized manner. See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....model.html
That is horrible! What are we doing to children today?
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