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PostPosted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 12:50 pm    Post subject: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
First of all, working moms ARE raising their children. They are just not doing it as stay at home mothers.

I've been at home. I've worked part time. I've worked full time. I've worked obscene hours. I've always been a full time mother.

Would I work if I didn't need the money? Right now, yes, but I would want greatly reduced hours. Five years ago? No. Five years from now? I'd work full time. Different stages of life have different needs. There's no one size fits all solution.
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PostPosted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
Barbara wrote:
First of all, working moms ARE raising their children. They are just not doing it as stay at home mothers.

I've been at home. I've worked part time. I've worked full time. I've worked obscene hours. I've always been a full time mother.

Different stages of life have different needs. There's no one size fits all solution.


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PostPosted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 1:15 pm    Post subject: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
I've worked with 2 kids almost full time. now that im finally able to be a SAHM (4 kids) I see how much my kids missed out and I feel kind of guilty. but the ideal for ME would be part time work (really part time like only twice a week for 3 hours) just to get out of the house and socialize.
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PostPosted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
Barbara wrote:
First of all, working moms ARE raising their children. They are just not doing it as stay at home mothers..


Yes. . . I work full time, but I also raise my child, thankyouverymuch.

I work full time right now for various reasons, but ideally I would like to work part time. As much as I would love to be a SAHM in theory, in practice I don't do very well with it. I believe that I'm a better mother and wife when I get out a bit.
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PostPosted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 1:52 pm    Post subject: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
I'm a SAHM. Right now I can't imagine going out to work. I have found my routine and I've come to love it. However, when my first kid was a baby, I was terribly bored all day. I had a very lonely day, with dh working crazy hours.

Even when I used to be so lonely, I never wanted to leave dd regularly. I wished I had a part time job out of the house, that would allow me to bring dd with me. That way I could have the best of both worlds. The problem was, noone was hiring a new mother with her baby.

My loneliness basically ended when dd#2 was born and both of my kids began intensive therapy. Then we suddenly had structure and company. Now they're in school and ds is home and getting lots of therapy. I enjoy my routine, but most of all, I'm glad I am able to spend my whole day with my little ones. I love being the one who plays with them all day, hugs them, feeds them, talks to them, reads them books... If they would be with a babysitter all day, there would be so many wasted smiles and giggles that I would never even get to see.

I once saw a baby I know with her babysitter, and the babysitter was talking to the baby while the baby smiled back. It was a delicious smile. I still think what a shame it was that the mother has to miss out on her baby's adorable smiles all day so that she can work with other kids instead.
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PostPosted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
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I'm a SAHM. Right now I can't imagine going out to work. I have found my routine and I've come to love it. However, when my first kid was a baby, I was terribly bored all day. I had a very lonely day, with dh working crazy hours.

Even when I used to be so lonely, I never wanted to leave dd regularly. I wished I had a part time job out of the house, that would allow me to bring dd with me. That way I could have the best of both worlds. The problem was, noone was hiring a new mother with her baby.

My loneliness basically ended when dd#2 was born and both of my kids began intensive therapy. Then we suddenly had structure and company. Now they're in school and ds is home and getting lots of therapy. I enjoy my routine, but most of all, I'm glad I am able to spend my whole day with my little ones. I love being the one who plays with them all day, hugs them, feeds them, talks to them, reads them books... If they would be with a babysitter all day, there would be so many wasted smiles and giggles that I would never even get to see.

I once saw a baby I know with her babysitter, and the babysitter was talking to the baby while the baby smiled back. It was a delicious smile. I still think what a shame it was that the mother has to miss out on her baby's adorable smiles all day so that she can work with other kids instead.


On the flipside, the mother knew she was leaving her baby in good hands.
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PostPosted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
PinkFridge wrote:
the world's best mom wrote:
I'm a SAHM. Right now I can't imagine going out to work. I have found my routine and I've come to love it. However, when my first kid was a baby, I was terribly bored all day. I had a very lonely day, with dh working crazy hours.

Even when I used to be so lonely, I never wanted to leave dd regularly. I wished I had a part time job out of the house, that would allow me to bring dd with me. That way I could have the best of both worlds. The problem was, noone was hiring a new mother with her baby.

My loneliness basically ended when dd#2 was born and both of my kids began intensive therapy. Then we suddenly had structure and company. Now they're in school and ds is home and getting lots of therapy. I enjoy my routine, but most of all, I'm glad I am able to spend my whole day with my little ones. I love being the one who plays with them all day, hugs them, feeds them, talks to them, reads them books... If they would be with a babysitter all day, there would be so many wasted smiles and giggles that I would never even get to see.

I once saw a baby I know with her babysitter, and the babysitter was talking to the baby while the baby smiled back. It was a delicious smile. I still think what a shame it was that the mother has to miss out on her baby's adorable smiles all day so that she can work with other kids instead.


On the flipside, the mother knew she was leaving her baby in good hands.

Yes, that's definitely true. I've seen many babysitters neglecting or mistreating the kids. At least I knew this one was taking the time to play with the baby, but it was still sad that the mother couldn't be there to witness it.
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PostPosted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 5:01 pm    Post subject: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
I'm a SAHM and I honestly don't know how working mothers manage it. So far this school year has been 4 months, we've had baby bronchitus, flu, a 10 day high fever virus, strep and then there was sukkos vacation, chanukah vacation. If I was working I would have been fired by now.
I actually love being a SAHM and wouldn't be able to leave my kids full time in care and go to work, I would just go crazy. (My almost 6 yo is in gan until 1.30, my almost 4 yo is in gan until 1 and the baby 14 months is home with me, and will be until she's almost 3)
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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 02 2011, 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
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If I won the lottery I'd hand in my resignation within 5 minutes.

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Ditto. And I love my job. But I work because I have to, not because I want to be away from my kids.

Barbara wrote:

First of all, working moms ARE raising their children. They are just not doing it as stay at home mothers.

There's no one size fits all solution.


That. I wasn't even going to look at this thread because the title made me so upset. (It's like when Binah had that series on SAHMs, WAHMs, and WOHMs...and each group was saying how the other was so bad - well, actually just the SAHMs were saying how awful the working mothers were). People are different! Their needs are different! Their financial situations are different! Sigh...

And yes, I cry that I miss things in DDs development.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 02 2011, 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
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And yes, I cry that I miss things in DDs development.


I don't mean to minimize what you're missing but do all of you out there believe that every SAHM has been present for every child's first word and step? I can almost picture a close to home cartoon about this, the mother who refuses to budge from the sofa, wild-eyed and lunatic - no shopping, cleaning, personal grooming - because she knows that sometime this hour/week/month baby's gonna do it!
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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 02 2011, 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
PinkFridge wrote:
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And yes, I cry that I miss things in DDs development.


I don't mean to minimize what you're missing but do all of you out there believe that every SAHM has been present for every child's first word and step? I can almost picture a close to home cartoon about this, the mother who refuses to budge from the sofa, wild-eyed and lunatic - no shopping, cleaning, personal grooming - because she knows that sometime this hour/week/month baby's gonna do it!


No, I don't believe that. I was responding (perhaps a in a strong tone) to the poster (and others I've seen, in other threads) who imply that women who send their children to babysitters by definition will never see that first smile or first step, feel that first tooth, hear that first word and thus are missing an incredible amount from their DC's lives...I'm being defensive because I've seen this discussion too many times. I'm thrilled that DD smiles at the babysitter - and at random strangers - and BH she smiles for me all the time too! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 05 2011, 2:29 am    Post subject: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
since I've become a mom, I've worked full time+school at night, worked full time without night school, not worked and done part time school and not worked at all. while working I did NOT feel guilty, I worked to make $ that we needed to keep up a lifestyle we wanted. we're B"H at a point where I don't need to work and can keep up the same lifestyle.

I will say that being a SAHM is million times better for my family and children, I did not realize how much closer and more patient I would become when I don't have to work all day and then deal with my kids, and I don't think working moms realize, or can even conceptualize the difference in the relationship when you are with your babies all day. I know I didn't really get it before I did it. HOWEVER, I am not for sacrificing and putting financial strain on your family at all just to stay at home. so, in my eyes staying at home is definately something reserved for the very wealthy. if being a SAHM is making your family struggle for $$ then you should go to work. also, every parent tries to figure out what's best for their families, nothing is perfect, but everyone tries and many have no options, circumstances happen. I wish everyone the chance to be a SAHM, but never judge those who can't- there was a time when I never thought it would be feasible.
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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 05 2011, 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: re: Working Rather than Child-Raising
 
Barbara wrote:
First of all, working moms ARE raising their children. They are just not doing it as stay at home mothers.

I've been at home. I've worked part time. I've worked full time. I've worked obscene hours. I've always been a full time mother.

Would I work if I didn't need the money? Right now, yes, but I would want greatly reduced hours. Five years ago? No. Five years from now? I'd work full time. Different stages of life have different needs. There's no one size fits all solution.

Totally agree.
I was sure this would be a thread criticizing this outlook since it is totally skewed.
I like my job, if I didn't have to work for financial reasons I'd still like to put in a few hours a week.
Nice to know what SAHM think about people like me, though.
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