Really resented the rain!

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Walking to shul (for the first time in MONTHS- we were away R'H and have no eruv in town) in the pouring rain I had a major "seriously?!?" moment. I mean come on! why make it hard for some people to be v'samachta b'chagecha by having it POUR on succos- I totaly dont get it- DH called me an apikores for going on about it. I'm not (I hope) but did resent the weather and was sad that my kids couldnt eat in the Succah and sad that I was HAPPIER inside on yomtov than I would have been outside. I'm not the only one who feels this way am I????

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This is a perfect example of why Jews should live in Israel, where - although it's hot - there is never a weather excuse not to sit in the Sukka. The Chagim are planned around the weather of EY, and not chu"l.
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Posted: Sun, Sep 26 2010, 5:43 am Post subject:

Tamiri, we were SUFFOCATING in our sukkah. I thought I was going to pass out from the heat. As I said, "I'm not going to kick the door on my way out, but I can't sit here even one minute more."

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Us too but at least no rain.

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Posted: Sun, Sep 26 2010, 5:51 am Post subject: re: really resented the rain!

we only got rained out one meal and a half. the rest were fine. A little chilly especially at night, but with a coat or shawl we were good.

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Tamiri I think I theory I agree with you, and wish more than anything that I could be there, but... we all have our reasons and circumstances which prevent us fulfulling that mitzvah- I believe though, that all those circumstances are pre-ordained and noone knows them better than HIM so, the rain (which did only prevent us from one meal) did feel like a slap in the face (and yes, it probably was meant to be!) It was the only day I made it to shul (DS has dreaded bug like everyone else seems to have) and kept him home 2nd day- so felt like the ONE day I was able to get out, was miserable! We also hd a discussion over dnner about rain covers, when Bnai Yisrael were travelling through Mitzraim they put Schach on their Sukkot- one reason we do today, BUT... if they had been travelling in the rain forest surely they would have had a more rain cover like roof- so if they built their roof out of the needs for the circumstances they had, why can I not build mine for my needs? We do have a rain cover by the way... but were discussing the various views held on using one- I know I know, apicores again... I promise I'm not, still following the rules, just wondering why its so hard to do so sometimes.

Posted: Sun, Sep 26 2010, 6:18 am Post subject: re: really resented the rain!

you are allowed to eat inside when raining, so you can certainly eat in a sukka with a rain cover when it is raining. (actually dh does not eat except in the sukka...so poor guy sat at the table and did not eat when we were inside. He kept running out to grab bites in the sukka)

alas we had no raincover...but this is a good reason to have one.

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I wasn't critisizing, stam I was reminding what the chagim are based on.

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Tamiri- I didnt think you were criticizing, you're right! If it were that simple I would have no reason to be complaining and then the choice to sit in the rain would be mine, unfortunately its not and for whatever reasons we're "stuck" here for the time being. I look forward to the day I can post "I resent the heat on sukkos"!!!

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......and we did have a fan in the sukka......did nothing.

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Lilac- sorry to hear the heat was so strong! If I'd have been there I assume I'd have felt as annoyed as I did about the rain. I do with my whole hear WANT to enjoy every aspect of every yomtov- but I feel like with most things Hashem controlls the weather and decided how how hot/rainy etc it would be for all of us, its at that point I ask WHY? (and here's the comment that got me branded) it seems really shallow to me that Hashem should need me to sruggle so much through a mitzva- is it any less of a mitzvah if I myself actually derived some pleasure from it? If not why is the horrendous weather necessary. p.s. not looking to be bashed for questioning Hashem.... I'm just wihning about the weather.

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Lilac- sorry to hear the heat was so strong! If I'd have been there I assume I'd have felt as annoyed as I did about the rain. I do with my whole hear WANT to enjoy every aspect of every yomtov- but I feel like with most things Hashem controlls the weather and decided how how hot/rainy etc it would be for all of us, its at that point I ask WHY? (and here's the comment that got me branded) it seems really shallow to me that Hashem should need me to sruggle so much through a mitzva- is it any less of a mitzvah if I myself actually derived some pleasure from it? If not why is the horrendous weather necessary. p.s. not looking to be bashed for questioning Hashem.... I'm just wihning about the weather.

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I don't think of it so much as a slap in the face. more as a reminder that we are in galus and nothing is completely the way it should be ideally, even mitzvos are harder. there were so many times in our history when yidden were unable to purchase an esrog or build a sukkah at all and although the rain is dissapointing I feel lucky that we are free and able to keep these mitzvos to the best of our ability, with the weather being the only deterent. the rain makes me long for moshiach when we will all be oleh regel and truly rejoice at the extra closeness in our connection with Hashem that the chag brings us.

Posted: Sun, Sep 26 2010, 7:48 am Post subject: re: really resented the rain!

The weather has been weeeiiird.... I've been thinking hard of those who have to eat in the suka! (((hugs)))
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Posted: Sun, Sep 26 2010, 8:22 am Post subject: re: really resented the rain!

B"h, the weather was beautiful here. We didn't even think of the weather, like it's hot, cold, etc...

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