Frum real estate developer arrested and charged....

Gold Member Joined: Jul 14 2008 Posts: 2107

http://www.app.com/article/201.....xt-Madoff-

Here's the link. many sites are posting his picture...with his suit and black hat and all.
Such an embarassment.
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Oy...

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When things like this hit the news, I want to throw a paper bag over my head before going out in the street. You'd THINK a guy like this would learn from Made-off and go straight, goodness knows he had enough money to live off for the rest of his life, but NOOOOO....these guys always think they're smarter than everyone else. Madoff was caught, but he got sloppy...he had too big an organization...he made mistakes...I'm too smart for that, I won't get caught.

Preyed on his own people. How low can you go? A Talmudical College grad, yet.

I do not want to see frum publications screaming headlines "Weinstein victim of blood libel", OK? A crook who graduated talmudical college is still a crook, OK? He's got a wife and six young kids? Then he should have considered what kind of father risks ruining the lives of his wife and six young kids like this.

It boils down to EGO. He risks because he doesn't think it's a risk. he won't get caught. Madoff was dumb, Rubashkin was dumber, but he's smart.

aaaargh.

Diamond Member Joined: Apr 27 2006 Age: 30 Posts: 2537

"A Talmudical College grad, yet. "

actually I heard that he's not associated with the Yeshiva, and didn't graduate from there either. He married womeone in Israel, lived there for awhile and then moved to Lakewood.

guilty till proven innocent

I never heard of this guy before and I live in Lakewood...but seriously, he doesn't live in an expensive neighborhood and I see no evidence of a yacht, estate in Florida, etc....and we don't know for sure that he's guilty yet...so why is everyone jumping the gun?

I'm not saying he's innocent, but isn't the premise supposed to be that until proven otherwise?
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Where is Marina?

She should be here to remind us to scream Toeva Smile

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come on! it's sad because it makes people look at us worse then they've done before - but why 'throw a paper bag over your head before you go out"?
remember that there are bad apples in every basket - and it only looks worse because the good apples are much better then the 'good apples' in all of the other baskets.

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mominlkwd, who outed him in the end? Is there a backlash against the "moser" in Lakewood?

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I don't understand this, 'save the family' attitude.
If you suspect someone is up to no good, you have to out him. A criminal keeps harming people until he is behind bars. I bet if he bilked some big time rabbonim, he would have been reported long ago.
The fact this man lived in Lakewood would explain why he would have been 'protected'. Many frum Jews are naive in believing all frum yidden must be protected This is so damaging and only causes more hurt. Hopefully, more people will open their eyes to waht is going on around them.
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Well, in reading this, I have to think of "the good news" side of things: The "Israeli" serial killer caught in the States is.... an Arab. Whew!!!!
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Diamond Member Joined: Apr 27 2006 Age: 30 Posts: 2537

I don't know of anyone from Lakewood moisered on him (although whether or not it would be considered true mesirah is a shaila in itself, as some poskim may say it's a mitzvah to keep such a person out of society...)
the article in the printed Asbury Park press quoted a few people from England, NY, Pensylvaia and Florida who gave information over to the FBI to stop him, as what he was doing was essentially a Ponzi scheme.