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Posted: Mon, Mar 01 2010, 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: re: Good sleeper (and co-sleeper) no more- Please help m |
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| GR wrote: | | I don't hold by CIO either, since I did it with my first and have regrets now for life. |
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Posted: Mon, Mar 01 2010, 3:38 pm Post subject: re: Good sleeper (and co-sleeper) no more- Please help me |
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GR, I WISH it would just be a stage that he would outgrow. Uriel is 2.5 and still hasnt outgrown his terrible sleep issues.
Shabri, in terms of pick up put down, if he squirms and kvetches, leave him be until he is actually crying full out? No patting, no shushing while he's down in the crib, only when you pick up to comfort? _________________ www.IsraelGlutenFree.com - Cheap gluten free flours and flour mixes
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Seraph,
we cosleep and DD (8 months)is also easily disracted. Evey nap and bedtime she is nursed to sleep in my bed (gaurdrail & platform bed). She is most difficult to put to sleep when overtired so if she is tired at 6 she gets a nap then even if bedtime is 2 hrs later, we dont schedule at all except try to keep bedtime around 8:30 but thats also flexible.
if she doesn't go to sleep right away, which for her means crawling around, standing up and shrieking we leave the room and take her out andlet her play until she rubs her eyes and try again and repeat. At some point she will fall asleep. I don't know if this can work when you have 2 kids but I find it easier than fighting. If she wants to go to sleep fine and if she doesnt also fine.
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Posted: Mon, Mar 01 2010, 5:57 pm Post subject: re: Good sleeper (and co-sleeper) no more- Please help me |
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| Quote: | | GR, I WISH it would just be a stage that he would outgrow. Uriel is 2.5 and still hasnt outgrown his terrible sleep issues. |
I wouldn't compare siblings' sleep troubles. There are a lot of factors that go into how a kid sleeps. I understand the yearning for the kids to just be sleeping, but I don't think 2.5 is terribly late for learning to sleep on a proper schedule. I think most sleep problems are created by parents who want their kids sleeping here and now according to the books.
Fiddle, I've written before about this, but in short, CIO created terrible anxiety in my oldest. He never cried more than 1/2 an hour at night, but it is still affecting him 6 years later. There was no way for me to know how sensitive he was at 6 months old. _________________ The Chanukah licht transcends all.
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Posted: Mon, Mar 01 2010, 7:54 pm Post subject: re: Good sleeper (and co-sleeper) no more- Please help me |
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| GR, I mean this for your benefit (and not to sound like I am undermining your judgement as a parent) but how do you know his anxiety and/or sensitivity issues stem from CIO?
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Seraph I'm also having sleeping problems with my ds. until he was 4 months he was the best sleeper, after he would just fall asleep in my bed and after nursing. I'm also against cio, I tried for 1 night(dh wanted) when he was 6 months and never anymore. 2 months ago I decide to move him out of the room(very good decision, but hard to keep), it took 2 weeks but he got used to his room/crib until 2 weeks ago that he got sick and he came back to my bed. I'm still in the middle of the process but what I'm doing now is put him in his crib(he start screaming when I put him down), so I sit in the floor next to him(he can see me), I touch him trough the crib hes crying but I try to massage him I sing to him and normally after less then 5 min he stop crying. Sometimes he start again after 1 sec I do the whole process again. I'm doing this since Thursday and its getting easier.
He's 11 months. Not sure if this helps u, but I think he will cry, but if u are next to him and giving him attention it's not cio.
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Posted: Tue, Mar 02 2010, 4:38 am Post subject: Re: re: Good sleeper (and co-sleeper) no more- Please help m |
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| Seraph wrote: | GR, I WISH it would just be a stage that he would outgrow. Uriel is 2.5 and still hasnt outgrown his terrible sleep issues.
Shabri, in terms of pick up put down, if he squirms and kvetches, leave him be until he is actually crying full out? No patting, no shushing while he's down in the crib, only when you pick up to comfort? |
Yes squirming and a little kvetching can just be him settling down. If you rush in to pick him up, you are actually teaching him not to self sooth. If it gets to be real crying (obviously before all out hysterics) just pick him up, give him what he needs, but as SOON as he stops put him back down.
She says shushing and patting at 6 mos can actually be more distracting--it stimulates them, but you have to know your kid to see what effect it has on him
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Posted: Tue, Mar 02 2010, 8:31 am Post subject: Re: re: Good sleeper (and co-sleeper) no more- Please help m |
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| Tova wrote: | | GR, I mean this for your benefit (and not to sound like I am undermining your judgement as a parent) but how do you know his anxiety and/or sensitivity issues stem from CIO? |
I'm obviously not going to write his 6 year history, but there is no other logical reason for his "Mommy, don't leave me"'s, when he has never been left with a babysitter, ever, except his grandmother who he knows very well, about five times overnight here in our home, and my sister for about an hour when he was 3 months old.
I did CIO with him at 6 months and the again at 8 and 9 months when he reverted back to "bad" (according to the books) sleep habits. I started co-sleeping with him at about 11 months and it saved him, emotionally. I'll never forget his incredibly huge grins every morning upon waking.
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Posted: Tue, Mar 02 2010, 8:54 am Post subject: re: Good sleeper (and co-sleeper) no more- Please help me |
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I am really against cry-it-out as well, but at 7-8 months my baby was still waking up an average of 5 or 6 times a night... and demanding to be nursed back to sleep (and consequently peeing out of his soaking diaper all over me)
I used many of the techniques from the book No cry sleep solution, but then he got wise to them so I just followed the advice that a baby crying in the arms of a loving parent/caregiver is different than crying alone in the dark.
So I would let my baby scream in my arms for a bit (wanting to be nursed) and then when I got too tired I would put him in his crib and sit beside him in my rocking chair singing softly too him. If he stood up I would pick him up, give him a quick hug and then lay him back down and try again.
I'm not even going to pretend that I think this will work for you, but I just wanted to give you an idea of something very loving but somewhat hands-off that may be applicable to your situation.
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Posted: Tue, Mar 02 2010, 10:40 am Post subject: re: Good sleeper (and co-sleeper) no more- Please help me |
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DS is about the same age as Shmaya. He was a great sleeper early on. Recently, a bout of ear infections and he has been terrible.
One thing that worked for us is to put him to sleep in the swing. The rocking motion helped him. Also, he likes to have a blanket and no matter where I put it, he manages to get it up to his mouth to snuggle with it. Drives me crazy but its genetic - DH does it and so does older DS.
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You put him in the crib and stay with him and comfort him as needed while he is in the crib, rub his back, talk to him but don't take him out.
It takes a few days- a few weeks, but eventually, he'll go to bed by himself again.
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Posted: Sun, Mar 07 2010, 12:27 am Post subject: re: Good sleeper (and co-sleeper) no more- Please help me |
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| I also have a problem (not to hijack thread) but my baby will not go back to sleep during the night excpet with me. If I try and put her down, even if I pat her etc etc she just gets stimulated by looking at me.
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