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This is the first year we are hosting the seudah - we usually go to my parents or in laws, and this yr we are having everyone by us - parents, in law, and all siblings and kids.
I am just looking for some ideas what ppl are making for their seudah so I can plan my menu...
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| Posted: Mon, Jan 04 2010, 10:37 pm Post subject: re: Purim Seudah |
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I made my first one last year and found that ppl are so hungry that apetizers and salads are eaten completley, but main and side dishes not so much.
I like the oriental fruit salad:
Mango, tangarine, dried cranberrys, toasted almonds, letuce. with vinegar, sugar/honey, seasame oil, salt peper.
taco salad always a hit: letuce, diced pepers, tomatoes, cucumbers and avocado.
salsa and mayo make the dressing. if you need it a bit runy add lemon juice.
top it with taco ships (we like the enchilada ones)
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| Posted: Tue, Jan 05 2010, 11:59 am Post subject: |
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do we have a thread on that?
offhand, stuffed cabbage or stuffed peppers or kreplach to be yotzei the inyan of eating something "covered ".
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| Posted: Tue, Jan 12 2010, 9:47 pm Post subject: re: Purim Seudah |
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| another big hit amongst my family and our friends as appitizer type or even as a side is mini franks and blankets, mini or full size bourekas. I find pot pie looks pretty and is not a main or a side dish. soup also works as a filling course not to hard depending on the type it can also be cheap
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| Posted: Tue, Feb 02 2010, 9:23 am Post subject: re: Purim Seudah |
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I make the seudah every other year. It is mainly men and older boys (bochuri). This year's my turn:
Fruit cup
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Challa rolls
hummus/tehina/pickles/etc
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Chopped meat knishes - shaped in triangles, with mushroom sauce
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Chicken soup with kreplach
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Chicken
chinese style rice
stir fry veggies
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Icecream roll
hamentashen
chocolate mints
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It also depends on how kid friendly it needs to be. We're debating the wisdom of a conventional fleishig seudah (sandwiched between 2 dairy meals - lunch and supper - for 4 children) and just doing a nice dairy seudah with food that all 8 kids will actually eat.
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There is pretty much a chiyuv to eat fleishig at the seuda - if someone wants to make milky they should check with their LOR.
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We know that...but there's NO chiyuv (AFAIK) to make life more complicated.
As far as we could tell (DH pulled out the MB on Shabbat since we were discussing it), a seudah is supposed to be food that is more "mehudar" than usual. So in the days of the MB that was fleishig, but that may not be the case today. (Hence the phone call to our LOR.)
Along the same lines, however, the MB clearly states that mishloach manot should include meat...
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We've probably made seudah about half a dozen times. Typically I just make a bigger version of our shabbos meals. But the last couple of years, DH has made a turkey with all the (Thanksgiving) fixin's while I take the kids delivering. He and the kids all love turkey and it makes for a relatively inexpensive meal. Since he doesn't get a chance to make turkey for shabbos and we rarely have such a large crowd outside of shabbos and yom tov, he likes to take advantage of that.
| Marion wrote: | | Along the same lines, however, the MB clearly states that mishloach manot should include meat... |
Seriously? That's the first time in 20+ years of being frum that I've ever heard that. 
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| chocolate moose wrote: |
offhand, stuffed cabbage or stuffed peppers or kreplach to be yotzei the inyan of eating something "covered ". |
Huh, what?
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| Zus wrote: | | chocolate moose wrote: |
offhand, stuffed cabbage or stuffed peppers or kreplach to be yotzei the inyan of eating something "covered ". |
Huh, what? |
it was a nes nistar, esther, covered, hidden, etc.
Some say that's the point of hamentashen, so maybe you're yotzei that way...
Also Yom Kippur = Yom kiPurim --> kreplach like erev Yom Kippur to say cover din with rachamim.
Also, like Hoshana Rabba and erev Yom Kippur, it's a chag on which we do melacha, so meat (to symbolize special-ness) covered in dough (because it's easy to be confused because in other ways it's like any other day).
In other words, there are a lot of reasons...though the nes nistar is the one I think most people think about.
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| tovarena wrote: | We've probably made seudah about half a dozen times. Typically I just make a bigger version of our shabbos meals. But the last couple of years, DH has made a turkey with all the (Thanksgiving) fixin's while I take the kids delivering. He and the kids all love turkey and it makes for a relatively inexpensive meal. Since he doesn't get a chance to make turkey for shabbos and we rarely have such a large crowd outside of shabbos and yom tov, he likes to take advantage of that.
| Marion wrote: | | Along the same lines, however, the MB clearly states that mishloach manot should include meat... |
Seriously? That's the first time in 20+ years of being frum that I've ever heard that. |
I will check it out, but I think something was misunderstood. Maybe it was an example of something chashuv (important)?
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| Posted: Tue, Feb 02 2010, 8:20 pm Post subject: re: Purim Seudah |
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| Could the poster who mentioned the meat knish triangles with mushroom sauce please post the recipe?
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| Posted: Tue, Feb 02 2010, 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: re: Purim Seudah |
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| momosix wrote: | | Could the poster who mentioned the meat knish triangles with mushroom sauce please post the recipe? |
Not that poster, but have done in the past. I saute onions, mushrooms, celery, etc., and then brown some ground beef in the veggies. Spice with garlic/onion powder/etc. or MSG-free onion soup mix. Place spoonfuls in puff pastry squares, fold diagonally, bake c. 20 minutes -- till the dough is crispy and brown (can brush with egg for looks, though if you're serving with sauce on top I wouldn't bother).
Sauce: heat 3-4 Tbs. shortening (oil works, but solid works better) and cook chopped onion and mushrooms until soft/translucent. Whisk in 3 or so Tbs flour -- will quickly absorb all the oil and turn semi-solid -- immediately begin to stir in 2-3 cups of liquid. Water works, but more flavor if you use chicken soup or water with mushroom soup bouillon, etc. Keep adding liquid slowly, taking care to completely dissolve any floury chunks; continue stirring until it thickens (pretty quick); remove from heat.
If you've never made a mushroom sauce, I'd encourage you to try it out ahead of time because it's more an art than a science. Mushroom sauce is great on mashed or baked potatoes if you want an easy meal to serve the experimental results with...
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| shalhevet wrote: | | tovarena wrote: | We've probably made seudah about half a dozen times. Typically I just make a bigger version of our shabbos meals. But the last couple of years, DH has made a turkey with all the (Thanksgiving) fixin's while I take the kids delivering. He and the kids all love turkey and it makes for a relatively inexpensive meal. Since he doesn't get a chance to make turkey for shabbos and we rarely have such a large crowd outside of shabbos and yom tov, he likes to take advantage of that.
| Marion wrote: | | Along the same lines, however, the MB clearly states that mishloach manot should include meat... |
Seriously? That's the first time in 20+ years of being frum that I've ever heard that. |
I will check it out, but I think something was misunderstood. Maybe it was an example of something chashuv (important)? |
DH always make sure that he give 1 person real food that he could possibly have a seudah with. ex. package of deli, jar of fish, challah roll and bottle of wine/grapjuice.
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| DovDov wrote: | | Zus wrote: | | chocolate moose wrote: |
offhand, stuffed cabbage or stuffed peppers or kreplach to be yotzei the inyan of eating something "covered ". |
Huh, what? |
it was a nes nistar, esther, covered, hidden, etc.
Some say that's the point of hamentashen, so maybe you're yotzei that way...
Also Yom Kippur = Yom kiPurim --> kreplach like erev Yom Kippur to say cover din with rachamim.
Also, like Hoshana Rabba and erev Yom Kippur, it's a chag on which we do melacha, so meat (to symbolize special-ness) covered in dough (because it's easy to be confused because in other ways it's like any other day).
In other words, there are a lot of reasons...though the nes nistar is the one I think most people think about. |
I don't get the yotzei thing though. We don't have any other chiyuv than having a seudah (= meal with bread). There is nothing else to be yotzei over...????
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| Zus wrote: | | DovDov wrote: | | Zus wrote: | | chocolate moose wrote: |
offhand, stuffed cabbage or stuffed peppers or kreplach to be yotzei the inyan of eating something "covered ". |
Huh, what? |
it was a nes nistar, esther, covered, hidden, etc.
Some say that's the point of hamentashen, so maybe you're yotzei that way...
Also Yom Kippur = Yom kiPurim --> kreplach like erev Yom Kippur to say cover din with rachamim.
Also, like Hoshana Rabba and erev Yom Kippur, it's a chag on which we do melacha, so meat (to symbolize special-ness) covered in dough (because it's easy to be confused because in other ways it's like any other day).
In other words, there are a lot of reasons...though the nes nistar is the one I think most people think about. |
I don't get the yotzei thing though. We don't have any other chiyuv than having a seudah (= meal with bread). There is nothing else to be yotzei over...???? |
I don't think she meant yotzei a halachic obligation, rather yotzei the minhag.
And I think I learned that for the Purim seuda, fleishig is the chiyuv (and wine for men) even more than bread (unlike Shabbos/YT seudot).
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| Marion wrote: | We know that...but there's NO chiyuv (AFAIK) to make life more complicated.
As far as we could tell (DH pulled out the MB on Shabbat since we were discussing it), a seudah is supposed to be food that is more "mehudar" than usual. So in the days of the MB that was fleishig, but that may not be the case today. (Hence the phone call to our LOR.)
Along the same lines, however, the MB clearly states that mishloach manot should include meat... |
I think you misread the MB - I just checked it out 695:20 (maybe you saw it somewhere else; let us know). He says there that the food must be something than can be eaten, and gives an example not to send raw meat because it is not immediately edible. I couldn't find anywhere that he says MM has to include meat.
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