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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:09 pm    Post subject: Racism and the election
 
I just read an article stating that 23% of Texans believe that Obama is a Muslim. I was thinking that the results of this election could be surprising. Do you think there could be a larger than expected percentage of voters who may be telling the pollsters one thing, but vote differently? Could there be a significant amount of Americans (especially in the South and rural areas) who are saying they support Obama, but would never actually vote for a black man? I'm thinking the answer might be yes.

Just for the record - I'm not American and I don't know who I would vote for (yes I do -McCain- but I really don't find either of the candidates particularly appealing).
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:11 pm    Post subject: re: Racism and the election
 
Racism often plays a part in an election. Why do you think the neo fascist party in France had 20% (I think)? (answer: the Muslim).
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:13 pm    Post subject:
 
like I said in another thread. I would be surprised if the American people actually vote for a Black muslim president only 7 years past 9/11.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:15 pm    Post subject: re: Racism and the election
 
There's a quote: Are all Texans idiots, or just the people they elect?

It's an anti-Bush quote, but you get the point. Truth is, they're so busy executing people and readying the chair for the next player, they barely have time to focus on politics.

(apologies to Texans here. My best friend lives in Texas)
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:16 pm    Post subject: re: Racism and the election
 
the racism is appalling. I keep hearing "schvartze this and schvartze that" about obama. if people have legitimate issues with him, gezunter heit. but just to call him a schvartze is ridiculous. someone actually had the chutzpah to tell dh a "joke" in shul:

what does CHANGE stand for? come help a nig*** get elected.

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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:17 pm    Post subject: re: Racism and the election
 
Why would someone who would never support a black man say he's voting for Obama? It's not like the other candidate is a white supremacist or Grand Wizard of the KKK. It's perfectly legitimate to say you're voting for McCain, despite some kooks who are trying to make it sound like a vote against Obama is racist, so why would someone planning to support McCain feel he has to lie about it?

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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:17 pm    Post subject: re: Racism and the election
 
My jaw just dropped, mama-star.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:19 pm    Post subject: re: Racism and the election
 
Racism is a big problem in Jewish circles, traditional to charedi. The things my dh was taught Rolling Eyes

But maybe it's a frontier against assimilation. Maybe with less assimilation our reactions against non jews would be different. Not that it's a good reaction.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:19 pm    Post subject: re: Racism and the election
 
Obama is most likely not a Muslim; if he is he is a great actor and should get an award for an over 20 year stint as a Christian.
Racism? Sure. There is also sexism.(and many liberals have said "well, but she has a special needs baby why isn't she playing mommy at home?" Um, because she is taking care of him and working and her dh is planning on being a stay-at-home dad.) And there is the reverse racism; he's black. He gets my vote. Reverse sexism. A woman VP... I'm voting her ticket. There are Muslims who are going to vote for him because secretly they think he is Muslim and just lying about it. Probably there are Muslims who aren't going to vote for him because they think he's an apostate.

There will always be people who vote with their emotions rather than their heads. What has that got to do with the way I will vote? Nothing.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Racism and the election
 
sarahd wrote:
Why would someone who would never support a black man say he's voting for Obama? It's not like the other candidate is a white supremacist or Grand Wizard of the KKK. It's perfectly legitimate to say you're voting for McCain, despite some kooks who are trying to make it sound like a vote against Obama is racist, so why would someone planning to support McCain feel he has to lie about it?


But that's my point. I think there are people who are traditionally Democrat and more liberal in their politics who feel the need to be politically correct and say publicly that they support him. But privately they may not have any intention of doing so.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:26 pm    Post subject: re: Racism and the election
 
I could go on and on about this...recently I was talking to some kids and I said, "if you could vote, who would you vote for?" and a 6 yr old said "not obama. he acts like a schvartze"

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so I said, "who told you that?" and she shrugged and said "that's what all the kids in class say." so I gently told her we should judge people by their characters, and not their color. she got the point.

if 6 yr olds are saying this in class, does that mean they are hearing it at home?
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 1:28 pm    Post subject: re: Racism and the election
 
I do know that there are people polled who lie about who they will vote for, but most likely it goes both ways. Basically it might be a shut up and leave me alone response.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 9:38 pm    Post subject: re: Racism and the election
 
Quote:
what does CHANGE stand for? come help a nig*** get elected.


Funny, I bet that one is a real hit on the stormfront website also.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 30 2008, 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Racism and the election
 
HindaRochel wrote:
Obama is most likely not a Muslim; if he is he is a great actor and should get an award for an over 20 year stint as a Christian.
Racism? Sure. There is also sexism.(and many liberals have said "well, but she has a special needs baby why isn't she playing mommy at home?" Um, because she is taking care of him and working and her dh is planning on being a stay-at-home dad.) And there is the reverse racism; he's black. He gets my vote. Reverse sexism. A woman VP... I'm voting her ticket. There are Muslims who are going to vote for him because secretly they think he is Muslim and just lying about it. Probably there are Muslims who aren't going to vote for him because they think he's an apostate.

There will always be people who vote with their emotions rather than their heads. What has that got to do with the way I will vote? Nothing.


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