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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 8:58 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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She was in contact with her doctor the entire time. She also went to give birth where she felt most comfortable, in the city where she had been mayor, and probably birthed her other children. I've heard how big hospitals (like Mamonidies) talk about Down's babies and trust me especially in the case of a special needs babies I would certainly want to give birth with professionals I trusted over a random big name hospital.
I also do not think her daughter looks pregnant and from looking at Palin's before photos (she is very thin) and then seeing her in her winter coat I can totally see her gaining a belly. Her middle is rather obstructed in most of the photos. As for her daughter being pulled out of school for mono ranging from 5-8 months who knows if she had mono or something else, but I don't think she was pregnant. _________________ I can't spell or proofread. Consider yourself warned.
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 8:59 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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| Oh and I heard she took her baby to work with her in a sling and her husband came too. Not quite my style, but much different than leaving a SN baby at home.
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Umm, what airline would even allow her to go on the plane?  _________________
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 9:03 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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Hmm. Just read that she has been pumping (not sure if she nurses too or maybe he has latch issues)
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20222685,00.html. That is going pretty far in a lie if she doesn't actually pump for him.
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 9:05 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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Not sure what to make of this story. It sure gives it a different twist. Nothing is definite yet, and it's all just wild rumors at this point.
A couple of things. First, no proof that the daughter was pregnant in any of the pics. So she has a belly...
There could've been complications in pregnancy where the baby was small, or low fluid, which she wouldnt seem extremely pregnant - especially in a non-healthy pregnancy. Regarding going back to work after three day-- um not sure. But I felt pretty good after certain pregnancies and probably could've gone back to work after a week. The traveling part -- she wasnt due for another month, so if there was no indication of preterm labor, why shouldn't she travel?
I would love to hear her come out with a statement - this is quite interesting and I'm very very interested in the outcome of any real investigation IF there is one.
On the other hand, if it really is her daughter's, she's proved that she's anti-abortion, and did a very noble thing by adopting a special needs grandchild. On the other hand, coming out with the truth would be nice although, who says she lied about these facts. Did she say it, or others around her/?
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: re: Palin's baby?! |
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| Secbeb wrote: | | Yes, women in their forties have a higher risk of having a down syndrome baby. But statistically speaking, because of the sheer volume of births of younger women, down syndrome babies are born in greater numbers to younger moms. . . |
I understand that. But find me a quote anywhere with a number for girls under 20. I have tried so any different phrases and I can't find it. You are talking a huge improbability. I can't find one news article about a teen who delivered a down syndrome baby.
People under stress react differently. She was not governor when she had her other kids. Maybe she didn't take care of herself the way she was able to with the first four. I had 6 babies late. My 7th came a week early and was the smallest of the bunch. I started showing with number 5 at 9 weeks, and needed maternity really badly. With numbers 6 & 7 I was able to hide it longer. So go figure.
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| GAMZu wrote: | Umm, what airline would even allow her to go on the plane?  |
Alaska Airlines does not have regulations and just trusts women to check with their doctors. She was 8 months pregnant and spoke with her doctor before boarding the plane. When questioned about it she said that because of her experience with her other four pregnancies she felt comfortable flying.
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| mugsisme, I know people who got married young and have their first baby with Down Syndrome. It's not a "huge improbability." I don't think it's something that goes up in risk every year of a woman's life. It's not like a 25 year old has more of a chance to have a DS baby than a 16 year old. I think that the risk goes up after a certain age and that's it. It doesn't steadily rise.
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 9:25 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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Gamzu, it is a risk that goes up as you age.
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I am not saying it doesn't happen. But don't most of our girls get married closer to 20? I know some of the chassidim have girls that get married at 17. I am not saying it doesn't happen. But please show me a stastic or an article about a teenager with a baby with ds.
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 9:34 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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| I am not saying I believe this story or not. Just some of my own family stuff. My dd 17 tends to carry any extra weight in her tummy. She does not have much, but even if its a few pounds, literaly a few, she will joke about what month she is in. She is prob the most attentive of my kids to my son with ds. She is usually the one holding him especially if he is sleeping. He was my over 40 baby, my easiest pg, & because I was diabetic with my pg right before, I started the diabetic diet right away & only gained 8 lbs. I didn't tell people until the end of my 6th month & even family were surprised. When my water broke, just a trickle, I called my dr & we discussed how much I should be feeling the baby move, clear fluid... Hours later when he called looking for me I was out shopping with dh. True I did not nor would I have ventured more than a few minutes from home/hospital, but I certainly didn't want to sit around the hospital doing nothing. I went into labor about 23 hours after my water broke & he is k"h my 8th. Also I was just about starting my 9th month & went away with dh for 4 days to Arizona for a last vacation , 4 hour plane ride, with dr permission, & 2 names of drs in Scottsdale, just in case, no flights home with water broken for me. So , in short much of her story could be plausible except the long flight, imho.
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: re: Palin's baby?! |
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| mugsisme wrote: | Gamzu, it is a risk that goes up as you age.
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I am not saying it doesn't happen. But don't most of our girls get married closer to 20? I know some of the chassidim have girls that get married at 17. I am not saying it doesn't happen. But please show me a stastic or an article about a teenager with a baby with ds. |
I think any statistic is horribly skewed because of this nasty statistic
"Some experts now believe that up to 90 percent of all pregnancies diagnosed as having a likelihood of Down syndrome end in abortion."
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http://albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=1144
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: re: Palin's baby?! |
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| Teacup9 wrote: |
I think any statistic is horribly skewed because of this nasty statistic
"Some experts now believe that up to 90 percent of all pregnancies diagnosed as having a likelihood of Down syndrome end in abortion."
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http://albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=1144 |
Yes, that is true. They do push you very, very hard. You in NY probably don't see it. With number 7 I was sent to a genetic specialist to discuss my risks. That is all my doctor wanted, me to know what my risks were at "advanced maternal age". Well, they pushed and pushed. They wanted me to do this test and that test and lie to my rav to get permission to do an amnio. I kept refusing, and after 3 months of badgering I went back to my doctor and said I wasn't returning to them. She called them and gave them an earful. This is not at all what she wanted. Women ARE encouraged to abort their "defective" fetuses. (Their word, not mine.)
I still think it is her baby. Until I hear other wise ....
Besides, there was talk that McCain was thinking of her a few months ago. I believe as far back as July maybe? Don't you think she might have warned him, I might not be the best choice because I have this dirty little secret? Any politician who thinks they can hide in today's world is just crazy. (JMHO.)
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 9:50 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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| That sounds awful mugsisme! If that isn't an attempt at genetic cleansing I don't know what is.
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 10:03 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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| It's a wild story and I doubt it's true. Wouldn't the "vetting" process have found that out? If so, would they (RNC) go along with the sham just because it is poitically beneficial for her to be the parent of a down's syndrome child?
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 10:09 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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Whatever the facts are, I think that trying to prove whateve the story is with the pictures is silly. I mean, comeon, hasn't anyone seen teenagers with stomachs like that? And hasn't anyone seen women in their 5th and 6th months who barely look pregnant at all?
Where is that baby's birth certificate anyway???
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 10:17 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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I can't believe how gullible some women are on imamother.
This conspiracy theory was started by liberals in the leftist media who hate the Republicans and don't want to see them in the white house for the next four years. Instead of attacking her for something of value, they are lowering themselves and attacking both her and her daughter on something that has zero basis. Her daughter's belly looks a little big? Well maybe she ate too much pizza. I mean, come on, do you believe everything the leftist media, who clearly has an agenda, feeds you? They don't want McCain and Palin elected and will do anything possible to prevent it, even spreading nasty rumors like this one.
There are pictures out there of Sarah Palin clearly pregnant. As far as the rumor that she continued giving a speech when her waters were breaking, that's also a low blow from the liberals. Sarah was in touch with her OB after her waters broke. If her OB ok'd it then that's that. Keep in mind this was her fifth child; she's not a newbie as far as what labor entails.
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If she was having a special needs baby a month early I can understrand why she wanted to deliver it close to home and not in a faraway state, in case the baby would stsay in the hospital for a while! what would she do - camp out for weeks in texas? but it was still irresponsible since she couldve had the baby on the plane!!!!
a plane to alaska takes 12 hours? _________________ http://www.autism-parenting.com
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| Teacup9 wrote: | | GAMZu wrote: | Umm, what airline would even allow her to go on the plane?  |
Alaska Airlines does not have regulations and just trusts women to check with their doctors. She was 8 months pregnant and spoke with her doctor before boarding the plane. When questioned about it she said that because of her experience with her other four pregnancies she felt comfortable flying. |
They have said they do have a policy that does not allow for women with "broken water" to fly.
This story is being picked up by some very mainstream sources like The Atlantic. You have to scroll down to the middle of the page. Some of the links are very interesting. While I stand by the "incredibly poor judgment" statement I'd say I'm more interested in her being investigated for ethics violations than the Jerry Springer-esque story of whose baby this really is.
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Posted: Sun, Aug 31 2008, 10:57 pm Post subject: re: Palin's baby?! |
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| if the daughter was pregnant and hiding it, she would not wear something so tight. she would wear baggy clothes. this is all crazy!!!!
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