Ideal Kosher Kitchen

Gold Member Joined: Jul 26 2008 Posts: 2096

We are thinking of remodeling our kitchen. It's a tiny kitchen in a big space and it could just be used so much more efficiently...

Anyways, we don't know what we're going to do, but if we're gonna do something we're gonna do it right, and I would love for it to be the perfect Kosher kitchen

What would you include?

Posted: Tue, Jul 29 2008, 9:29 pm Post subject: re: Ideal Kosher Kitchen

I would love 3 sinks - MIliching, Fleishing and PARVE

Executive Member Joined: Oct 18 2007 Posts: 394

yup, that's my dream too. 3 sinks. my mil has a 3rd sink for pareve, with just a little counter space next to it, but it is amazing!
also, on a practical level, I think that drawers are much more efficient than cupboards for storage in the kitchen. for dishes, pots etc. you pull the whole drawer out and can see everything instead of crouching on the floor and digging in the back of a cupboard.

Posted: Tue, Jul 29 2008, 9:39 pm Post subject: re: Ideal Kosher Kitchen

[quote rowo]also, on a practical level, I think that drawers are much more efficient than cupboards for storage in the kitchen. for dishes, pots etc. you pull the whole drawer out and can see everything instead of crouching on the floor and digging in the back of a cupboard.

They make cabinets that have pull out shelves for this purpose.(specifically for pots).

Posted: Tue, Jul 29 2008, 11:58 pm Post subject:

We just did our kitchen. Drawers are wonderful, we got as many as we could.

As far as the counter layer, ours is a "U" shape. We started with the fridge on the right, parve space then(the size of the dishwasher) then a sink (meat sinK), all the way around the "U" to the burners in the middle (I wanted the burners to be the divider, I was sick of having to carry my dairy accross the kitchen to put it down!. Curve around the "U" until you get to the dairy sick (pretty much oppisite the meat) and there is another area you can curve around a bit for a milk area. If you want to see a picture let me know in PM with an e-mail address I can try to take one.

By the way, I just asked my Rav yesterday and he told me you can put parve dishes in a clean meat / milk sink, so I just do that. The meat dishes get done first or put in the dishwasher, then I clean the sink and put the parve in. If I h ad a lot of space a parve sink would be nice, but I prefer the counter space. I know someone with a big kitchen who had a parve island in the middle with a sink in the island.
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Posted: Wed, Jul 30 2008, 2:34 am Post subject: re: Ideal Kosher Kitchen

A pantry is also very important

I chose to have cabinets to the ceiling, b/c in my experience, cabinet tops collect tons of dust that only gets cleaned 1-2x a year. We use the extra height for storage of bulk items on sale (I.e. crackers, ketchup)

It was important to me to have pesach stuff stored in the kitchen, so one of our corner cabinets and the cabinet over the fridge hold our pesach stuff. Minimizes shlepping.

Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2008, 12:37 pm Post subject: re: Ideal Kosher Kitchen

2 dishwashers sounds great to me...hey, even one would be nice! Smile

Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2008, 1:48 pm Post subject: re: Ideal Kosher Kitchen

To save money when my parents redid their house, they could not afford an architect, my mother designed the kitchen with great features.

1) tons of outlets. you never know when or where you need the blender, mixer, food processor etc...
2) 2 dishwashers. Although to tell the truth we didn't really use that much milchigs so it was used during the nine days and after shavuos, and that's it. But some families eat a lot of dairy.
3) large pantry
4)broom closet
5) something my mil has that mother didn't get too good was the drawer/cabinet thing. My mother has cabinets with drawers inside for pots, not so good. The drawers break and thinkgs fall behind. My mil has full drawers that look great.
6) built in microwave with vent. This was great growing up if some sort of smoky mess in the kitchen and we didn't want the smoke alarm to go off.
7) 2 ovens. This was great. Although we didn't use so much dairy as I said, we kept it self-cleaned and often used it for pareve like cakes and challah.
8) lazy susannah. Cabinet with rotating shelves inside
9) cabiinets on top of the fridge for pesach dishes
10) no island, rather u shape on one side. I personally like working on an island, especially since it can be pareve, but it totally breaks up the space unless there is a HUGE kitchen. Spaciousness is better.

GOOD LUCK!

Senior Member Joined: Jul 27 2007 Posts: 239

When my sister designed her kitchen, she had the counters made higher than usual (she is somewhat tall, but not unusually so). It is much better than bending down too much - good ergonomics.

This is another great idea that I have seen - but only if you have enough space (something most people don't have!): I have also seen people put a counter and a few cabinets in a big pantry-like closet with folding doors - as a pesach kitchen. it looks really useful

Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2008, 2:23 pm Post subject:

tons of outlets
2 dishwashers
3 sinks
3 ovens
3 stovetops
tons of storage and cabinets and pantries
taller counters

Thats what I want!

Gold Member Joined: Jul 26 2008 Posts: 2096

Diamond Member Joined: Aug 03 2007 Posts: 4448

Hmmm.. 3 sinks and 3 roomy countertops............ 2 stovetops.... 3 ovens and 2 microwaves...
And lots of storage space!!!!

Gold Member Joined: Jul 09 2006 Posts: 1934

Lots of people mentioned 3 sinks as well as 2 dw's. Since they take up about the same amount of space, I would definitely go with 2 sinks and 3 dishwashers. If you use a lot of parves, like soups, baking utensils, food processor, containers, wouldn't you rather put them in a parve dw, than a parve sink and have to wash them? If you don't do a lot of parves, then save it for Pesach. (but put something inside while not in use that absorbs moisture so it wont stink when closed up for so long.)

Gold Member Joined: Apr 06 2006 Posts: 1192 Location: usa

if u have a L or U shape, you can put a lazy susan in teh corner, it goes all teh way around so u dont lose too much space. my parents have their milchig in a "seperate" kitchen its off the main kitchen like a sideways T except the milchig is much smaller. this way ur milchigs is seperate and u also have the extra wall space to have more cabinets. drawback is it makes the rest of the kitchen more narrow.

Posted: Thu, Aug 14 2008, 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: re: Ideal Kosher Kitchen