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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:24 pm Post subject: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cream |
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I'm wondering if anyone here can help me out with this frustration I have...Many recipes call for Redi-whip Parve whip cream (which I refuse to purchase as it is not natural and is not healthy), for reasons unknown to me the grocery stores here do not ever carry real whipping cream for me to substitute with.
Now...this parve subsitiution stuff has not been around as long as our bubbies yet all these recipes are calling for it. What, if anything, can someone suggest I do as a subsitute in my situtation? Is their something I could do to whole milk and sugar to create whipped cream? Any suggestions appreciated.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:28 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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Our bubbies did not make parve whipped cream desserts. It was either real cream, or nothing. Most likely usually nothing.
I have stopped making parve desserts with concoctions such as Rich's whip. No one is suffering. There is always watermelon and other fruit oh, and cake (with oil of course).
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:32 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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Tamiri, it's worse.
Our Bubbeh's made whipped deserts. With egg whites. Uncooked. In those days they didn't know about what we know....mousses with melted pareve chocolate and egg whites and uncooked egg yolks... _________________ "Olam Chessed Yiboneh", Tehilim 89.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:34 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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| No one died from uncooked eggs. It's a myth by the egg conglomerates. I would rather have raw whipped eggs than Rich's whip. In fact I made such mousses (meese?) for years.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whippin |
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| Tamiri wrote: | | No one died from uncooked eggs. It's a myth by the egg conglomerates. I would rather have raw whipped eggs than Rich's whip. In fact I made such mousses (meese?) for years. |
well, I didn't die, but I was very very miserable for 3 or 4 days from ice cream made with raw eggs. And so were lots of other people.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:38 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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And what is the problem with Rich whip? The fats? you get as much in a pareve cookie!
Trans fats? You get enough in other things.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:38 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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Hmmm....
This came up because I made that no bake napolean cake thing from susie fishbein (which I didn't like how it turned out at all) and it called for adding Redi whip to the vanilla pudding which I ommited. Well the whole thing was a flop, but I wondered if at least the pudding would have tasted differently with the whip in it.
Then again I made her banana cream pie for which I also ommitted the suggested RediWhip and it just wasnt anything special. Therefore I was thinking if anyone knew a way to create a homemade substitute (I envision beating milk eggs sugar, something) that I could give the recipe another try.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:41 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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in england you can buy whipping cream in the stores all year round. Call up your chalav yisrael milk company and ask if they do cream. Perhaps they sell it to resturants, but not in the stores, and maybe you can order a case. (it freezes nicely)
(I assume you keep chalav yisraeel, if you didn't you wouldn't have a problem gettting it)
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:44 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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It's a problem for me on a long list of blacklisted products that I personally won't use because they are far from natural and our bodies can't digest them properly and only cause us more health problems the more processed a food product is.
I won't purchase any artificial sweeteners, parve dairy subsitutes, margarine, white flour, iodized salt, etc. Consider it part of my fanaticism if it's not in your comfort zone. :wink
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:45 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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Yes Raisin you assume correctly.
I might just resort to buying a case of cream like you suggested...since it seems there is no homemade alternative.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:46 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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| Cream is cream. You can't substitute the fat with sugar and air.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whippin |
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| Raisin wrote: | | Tamiri wrote: | | No one died from uncooked eggs. It's a myth by the egg conglomerates. I would rather have raw whipped eggs than Rich's whip. In fact I made such mousses (meese?) for years. |
well, I didn't die, but I was very very miserable for 3 or 4 days from ice cream made with raw eggs. And so were lots of other people. |
How do you know it was the eggs? If you told me you got sick from eating an egg, mayleh. But ice cream has a bunch of other things in it as well. I am not saying that it can't happen, just that eggs are getting a worse rap than they deserve. It could have been bad cream, bad fruit - anything.
Was it tomato ice-cream? Seems that in the U.S there is a salmonella outbreak from tomatoes. Are you going to stop eating them?
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:53 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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If somebody is so afraid of raw eggs, there are plenty of other ways to do it. You can buy Egg beaters, they pasteurized and have only whites. Or you can add lemon juice while whipping, it acts like cooking (as per Julia Child if I remember correctly). There is also meringue powder by Wilton's. The other thing you can do is to add hot syrup (sugar or any other) little by little when you are whipping egg white and they are almost done. But I must say I'm with Tamiri on this.
And unfortunately it won't work instead of whipped cream.
I tried to use frozen whipped cream and it didn't work for me. I couldn't whip it.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:54 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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DH is concerned about this uncooked egg hype as well so when I make ice cream I cook the whole thing on the stove before cooling it and then making it into ice cream. However, I cannot take credit for this idea, the recipe my ice cream maker came with said to do this because it melts the sugar and won't be grainy.
But Tamiri you are correct, in fact several collegues of mine reccomend raw eggs to their clients in the form of blended healthy breafasts. I can't stomach it personally, but really the chances of something being wrong with your raw egg are really as common as something being wrong with your cantalope (which can also happen!) anything can happen....
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 3:58 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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| My DH's favorite breakfast - raw eggs with bread.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whippin |
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| egam wrote: | | My DH's favorite breakfast - raw eggs with bread. |
I'll pass. It's the bread that's unappealing
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 4:05 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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I think tamiri is correct that raw eggs are safe. However you are still not meant to serve them to children, pregnant women, and elderly people. So if you have none of those in your house, go ahead.
egam, I have whipped previously frozen cream many times, and it always works. It may lose a little quality, but its usually delicious.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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| In the kitchen wrote: | I'm wondering if anyone here can help me out with this frustration I have...Many recipes call for Redi-whip Parve whip cream (which I refuse to purchase as it is not natural and is not healthy), for reasons unknown to me the grocery stores here do not ever carry real whipping cream for me to substitute with.
Now...this parve subsitiution stuff has not been around as long as our bubbies yet all these recipes are calling for it. What, if anything, can someone suggest I do as a subsitute in my situtation? Is their something I could do to whole milk and sugar to create whipped cream? Any suggestions appreciated. |
I buy real cream. It comes in a little milk bottle.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 06 2008, 4:17 pm Post subject: re: Alternative to false whipping cream/and real whipping cr |
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If only we had a yard Greenfire My dh would love to get a cow. You don't know how relevant your statement is!
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