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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Help I need your advice
 
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We were supposed to rent a house for a Shabbos and the week we were supposed to rent that Tuesday my husband got a text from a person he knows and I got a random call from a person that never calls to basically ask if they are on for Shabbos. They both heard from my husband about this house he was supposed to rent. It turned out we decided not to take the house because we were invited out. We told both of the people that called that we changed our plans and they were angry that they were not getting a free weekend on us. If we ended up taking this house it would have been a tough call who to take to join us. But texting or calling somebody to ask if you are on is rude because you are putting them on the spot. And it's none of your business what they ended up doing. Be happy they thought of you last year. You can't expect to be their guest every year Shabbos Nachamu. I can't see the husband or wife not calling to confirm.


What would make two separate couples decide they had a a free weekend on you? Sounds like your dh invited them.
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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 11:33 pm    Post subject: re: Help I need your advice
 
They asked him if they can come. He never asked them if they would like to join us.
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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Help I need your advice
 
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They asked him if they can come. He never asked them if they would like to join us.


But did he say yes?
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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 11:39 pm    Post subject: re: Help I need your advice
 
My husband did'nt give them a definite yes cause he told me he said its alot of work to schlep up food for another family.
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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: re: Help I need your advice
 
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My husband did'nt give them a definite yes cause he told me he said its alot of work to schlep up food for another family.


Yeah; but he did not tell them no so they reasonably thought they had an option for sukkos. No wonder they called to confirm and were upset when you canceled the house without notifying them.
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PostPosted: Mon, Aug 06 2012, 8:26 am    Post subject: re: Help I need your advice
 
It was for a Shabbos and not for Sukkos. When my husband brought up the food issue they didn't even offer to schlep up the drinks or offer to bring any food. They were expecting to put the whole headache and cost on us. I felt it was weird for somebody to be asked to be invited to somebody's home if the person was renting it for only the weekend. Who am I to pay for their mini vacation? Am I supposed to schlep for that shabbos from water, cereal, papergoods to chicken and kugel for them? And if I forget to pack something everybody will look at me.
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PostPosted: Mon, Aug 06 2012, 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: re: Help I need your advice
 
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It was for a Shabbos and not for Sukkos. When my husband brought up the food issue they didn't even offer to schlep up the drinks or offer to bring any food. They were expecting to put the whole headache and cost on us. I felt it was weird for somebody to be asked to be invited to somebody's home if the person was renting it for only the weekend. Who am I to pay for their mini vacation? Am I supposed to schlep for that shabbos from water, cereal, papergoods to chicken and kugel for them? And if I forget to pack something everybody will look at me.


Don't you think it is strange 2 separate couples were under the same misunderstanding? I agree you have no obligation to pay for their mini-vacation; nor any obligation to over burden yourself. Do you think it is possible your husband created this problem? He went so far as to discuss eating arrangements and the accommodations. Eating arrangements would definitely confirm in someone's mind, they had an invite.
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PostPosted: Mon, Aug 06 2012, 9:03 am    Post subject: re: Help I need your advice
 
I wasn't there. So I can't give you a detailed report what happened. My husband claims he brought up the food issue and stuff to try to say no the nice way. But I guess maybe the people took it the wrong way. I was not there. And one conversation was my husband to his friend. And his wife didn't call me after for details or anything. Most people I know would want to know details on sleeping accomodatins on a rented house and to see if you need a crib and stuff. I told my husband after this whole thing happened to keep his plans for himself in the future because it seems like if you are not going to a hotel people are going to look to crash.
I'm happy I brought this incident up because I did not look at my husband complaining about the food schlepping was a confirmation. I was just looking at the cost that these families were going to throw on us.
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PostPosted: Mon, Aug 06 2012, 9:03 am    Post subject: re: Help I need your advice
 
I wasn't there. So I can't give you a detailed report what happened. My husband claims he brought up the food issue and stuff to try to say no the nice way. But I guess maybe the people took it the wrong way. I was not there. And one conversation was my husband to his friend. And his wife didn't call me after for details or anything. Most people I know would want to know details on sleeping accomodatins on a rented house and to see if you need a crib and stuff. I told my husband after this whole thing happened to keep his plans for himself in the future because it seems like if you are not going to a hotel people are going to look to crash.
I'm happy I brought this incident up because I did not look at my husband complaining about the food schlepping was a confirmation. I was just looking at the cost that these families were going to throw on us.
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PostPosted: Mon, Aug 06 2012, 9:53 am    Post subject: re: Help I need your advice
 
My neighbor asked me if they could have guests at my house for Yom Tov. I said I prefer not as I would have to move another bed into our spare room. The next thing I had was guests I did not want who showed up early to move the bed. My husband said I did not say no outright. I thought I prefer not is sufficient.

Your husband may have said something along the lines I did. When asked if they could come, he might have said we could use help with the food. Best is as you say not to mention plans until after.
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PostPosted: Mon, Aug 06 2012, 12:18 pm    Post subject: re: Help I need your advice
 
Both families did ask on Tuesday for a confirmation and did not wait till Thursday. The story happened two or three summers ago.
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PostPosted: Tue, Aug 07 2012, 1:01 pm    Post subject: re: Help I need your advice
 
OP: What ended up happening?
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