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| punchike wrote: | Amother w twins, u sound like a great mom! What did u do when your baby wakes up for comfort food? And what would u do with a baby who refuses to go back into the crib, and only relaxes and goes to sleep when in bed w his mom?
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I am the amother with twins= thank u! I think im fueled more by need for sleep than anything else! when the baby or babies woke up for comfort which only happened in the beginning, I would wait! I kept a good clock near me and I would wait 5 minutes if both were up and 3 if just one was (I was afraid the other would wake up from too much crying). after that time if there was still full force crying I would go in, give back the paci if it feel, give them a single pat on the back, say nothing! and leave (even if baby was still crying). message: I love you, baby, and I am here for you. now is nighttime and it is time for you to sleep so you can be healthy and happy tomorrow.
if the crying was lighter after 3 minutes I wouyldnt go in at all- only if it was still full force. then I would wait 5-7 minutes more- almost always by then the crying was over and baby was peacefully sleeping once again.
I NEVER took a baby out of the crib at night unless the baby was sick. it was always just a pat on the back and thats it. and I never let them sleep with me at night or rocked them to sleep (the only exception being my twin baby boy's bris  he actually slept with daddy that night ). they always had their own designated cribs and that was where they slept from the beginning. I definitely think the way I did things from their birth helped it get much easier later. now they are standing in their cribs alread- I cnt imagine how hard it would be if they werent trained from birth but if you didnt do that- dont worry! it is harder than training A younger baby but if you stick to your gins, an older infant can learn too! they need to see that mommy means business and that each night is the same!
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 19 2012, 9:37 am Post subject: Re: re: Sleeping through the night-something we all wish for |
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| concernedmom wrote: | Ok so my dd is 17 months ka"h! NEVER slept threw the night yet. Wakes up 4-5 times a night n will only fall back asleep with a warm milk bottle-now my question is am I spoiIing her with that bottle? What can it be that she wakes up that many times a night! HEELP!
And "amother With twins u sound like a real great organized mom" kal hakovod! |
You are also ruining her teeth. Middle of the night = water and nothing else, if even that.
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 19 2012, 9:52 am Post subject: re: Sleeping through the night-something we all wish for!! |
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A young baby needs to eat enough formula within a 24 hour period, to grow. Some babies can eat everything in 5 bottles, and others need 6 smaller bottles. Depends on her tummy capacity, and whether the formula is a good fit. A baby who is not doing well on a particular formula, and suffers from reflux or gas, will not sleep well.
I would ask you to explain how old is your child, how big he is, how much and how many bottles and at what times you give them.
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 19 2012, 9:55 am Post subject: Re: re: Sleeping through the night-something we all wish for |
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| Orchid wrote: | | concernedmom wrote: | Ok so my dd is 17 months ka"h! NEVER slept threw the night yet. Wakes up 4-5 times a night n will only fall back asleep with a warm milk bottle-now my question is am I spoiIing her with that bottle? What can it be that she wakes up that many times a night! HEELP!
And "amother With twins u sound like a real great organized mom" kal hakovod! |
You are also ruining her teeth. Middle of the night = water and nothing else, if even that. |
It's not just bad for the teeth, letting her wake up and demand to drink messes up her sleep cycle and compromises the nervous system and brain development and growth. Babies need to sleep 12 hours. They wake lightly and should return to sleep on their own. IMO.
Btw, if someone would bring me a warm bottle of milk, I'd wake up in the night also.
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 19 2012, 10:06 am Post subject: re: Sleeping through the night-something we all wish for!! |
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hi!
ladies dont give up!!!!!!!! up untill recently maybe 4 weeks ago my baby woke up every 2.5 hours a good night was every three!!!!!
I was walking around sleeping! now bh hes 10 months I can say he wakes up once around 3pm for a pat on the back and sixish he gets a bottle and I have to wake him in the morning -my dream!
the difference is he started eating solids by each meal ! and im not afraid to let him settle down by himself
=happy baby =happy mommmy! 
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 19 2012, 10:10 am Post subject: Re: re: Sleeping through the night-something we all wish for |
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| monkey wrote: | Dotty:
There's nothing to get bashed for...like my mother tells me this is what they all did 20 years ago plus and we all survived to tell the tale
By my first he was more to the biggish side so by four weeks I had him sleep on his stomach...(which made him sleep pretty much through the night..talking 6-7 hours) ...this time my baby was a bit smaller..in the meantime I have him sleep on his stomach for a few minutes every day until I see that he moves his head from side to side.... |
bh your mothers kids survived - but plenty of mothers had children who died from sids, and it is well known that sleeping on the stomach makes more kids die from sids. (they sleep TOO well, sometimes, and don't wake up rl)
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 19 2012, 10:32 am Post subject: Re: re: Sleeping through the night-something we all wish for |
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| Raisin wrote: | | monkey wrote: | Dotty:
There's nothing to get bashed for...like my mother tells me this is what they all did 20 years ago plus and we all survived to tell the tale
By my first he was more to the biggish side so by four weeks I had him sleep on his stomach...(which made him sleep pretty much through the night..talking 6-7 hours) ...this time my baby was a bit smaller..in the meantime I have him sleep on his stomach for a few minutes every day until I see that he moves his head from side to side.... |
bh your mothers kids survived - but plenty of mothers had children who died from sids, and it is well known that sleeping on the stomach makes more kids die from sids. (they sleep TOO well, sometimes, and don't wake up rl) |
Sleeping on the stomach does not make babies die. It is associated with a higher risk of sids, but it isn't a CAUSE. Bottle feeding is also associated with a higher risk of sids. Would you tell a mother that formula makes more babies die of sids? Sleeping in a different room than Mom is also associated with a higher risk. Does that make more babies die of sids?
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 19 2012, 10:33 am Post subject: Re: re: Sleeping through the night-something we all wish for |
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| chani8 wrote: | A young baby needs to eat enough formula within a 24 hour period, to grow. Some babies can eat everything in 5 bottles, and others need 6 smaller bottles. Depends on her tummy capacity, and whether the formula is a good fit. A baby who is not doing well on a particular formula, and suffers from reflux or gas, will not sleep well.
I would ask you to explain how old is your child, how big he is, how much and how many bottles and at what times you give them. |
Chani, spot on. You may need to make some feeding adjustments before expecting your baby to go longer stretches.
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| amother wrote: |
I think im fueled more by need for sleep than anything else! | Wow! That sounds selfish!
[qoute] when the baby or babies woke up for comfort which only happened in the beginning, [/quote]Of course it onlly happened in the beginning! They quickly learned there's nobody home, nobody to talk to, nobody who takes the time to give the the comfort they need...
| Quote: | | after that time if there was still full force crying I would go in, give back the paci if it feel, give them a single pat on the back, say nothing! and leave (even if baby was still crying). message: I love you, baby, and I am here for you. now is nighttime and it is time for you to sleep so you can be healthy and happy tomorrow. | Perhaps that's the message you wanna give. But the message the baby is getting is : You seem to love me, you come in for me. It is nighttime and I need you to be with me. Why are you ignoring my cries? Why are you abandoning me with just one little pat? I need you to touch me, rock me, comfort me.... Hellooooo????? Aren't you my mother?????
Besides, I thought your goal was so that YOU could sleep. I know many kids who don't sleep through the night and are healthy and happy the next day.
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if the crying was lighter after 3 minutes I wouyldnt go in at all- only if it was still full force. then I would wait 5-7 minutes more- almost always by then the crying was over and baby was peacefully sleeping once again. | How do you know? Because it looked like it? Did you check his heartbeat, how fast it was beating because of the anxiety he had to endure? Did you check the levels of his stress hormones which affect all the organs in his body, causing them to operate in the mode of "fight or flight"? (This distress is compounded by the fact that his body is so small and is being flooded with high levels of stress hormones.)
| Quote: | | I NEVER took a baby out of the crib at night unless the baby was sick. | How would you know that for certain? Is it not possible for the child to BE sick and you just don't know it???? Many mothers can testify to the fact that a baby may be kvetchy and only when the tooth is almost out do they realize he was teething. Fever is NOT the only indicator of sick. Do YOU never feel well without any obvious symptoms? How can you be so sure about your baby?
| Quote: | | it was always just a pat on the back and thats it. and I never let them sleep with me at night or rocked them to sleep (the only exception being my twin baby boy's bris he actually slept with daddy that night ). | You sound like a very, cold, phsically distant mother...
| Quote: | | it is harder than training A younger baby but if you stick to your gins, an older infant can learn too! they need to see that mommy means business and that each night is the same! |
I always thought parenting (especially an infant) was a task of nurturing, giving, comforting, being there for them, loving, warm.... and now I discovered that IT'S A BUSINESS!
Sorry if this came out to rude. It just seems like your babies need someone to take their side and talk for them...
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| Posted: Mon, Jul 23 2012, 9:03 pm Post subject: re: Sleeping through the night-something we all wish for!! |
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| what if the baby doesn't take a pacifier- how do you comfort them in the middle of the night? my 7th month old wakes up for one feeding around 3 ish. if I don't feed her she can cry for over an hour
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| Posted: Tue, Jul 24 2012, 1:48 am Post subject: re: Sleeping through the night-something we all wish for!! |
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| my big one we let cio for 3 days at 13 months. she still woke for bottles which we had to give her because she was ftt. she SITLL isn't sleeping through the night (3.5)- past week she was up most nights at 11:30, which is better than 2-4 because I can still put her back in her bed and make sure she stayed there. since this thread started I moved the baby out of my room and B"h that seems to have done the trick. he slept through most nights from when I put him in, once or twice he woke up from his sister who deliberately woke him but I gave him a bottle and he went back to sleep. both of my kids have/had reflux and didn't drink big bottles during the day, my son is 13 months and he only does 4 ounces with 2 tablespoons cereal mixed in. that might be contributing to their sleep issues.
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