Tipat Chalav= nuts!

Active Poster Joined: Jan 12 2012 Posts: 96

Does anyone else have horrible experiences with Tipat Chalav? I am shocked that the people I have been seeing are meant to treat my baby. They handle the baby so roughly and practically stab him when they give him shots. They yell at me for just about anything and I heard that they are all like this. Is this true? Is there any way to circumvent them?

By the way, some examples of what happened to me and people I know:
They told me I was lying to them and that I am a bad mother for not wanting to give my baby shots. I said, I do want to give him shots, that's why I'm here! They yelled, you're lying! (huh?)

At my baby's one month checkup, they yelled at me, he's a pag (preemie). I'm like, no he's not. they yelled, yes he is, and he was born before 37 weeks! I said, nope. they said, you're lying!!! Rolling Eyes

Then they literally stab the baby with the shot and don't do anything about the blood. I had to use my shirt to apply pressure to his wound. I asked her for something for the blood and she threw a cotton ball in my general direction.

They yell at me for coming. Then they yell at other ladies for coming late.They say, who gave you this appointment? I say, you. They said, well I wouldn't have given to you except you refused all other appointments. I said, I did?? I don't remember such a thing, I only didn't want the 8:00 AM appointment and this was the second one you offered me. They said, you're lying!!!

They told me today that only one side of my baby's neck is developed, and taught me and another mother "how to hold the baby". The other mother is a meah shearim lady who was holding child number who knows what. she just rolled her eyes at me when the nurse told her that her baby's neck is only half developed as well.
they told someone else that one of their baby's eyes is bigger than the other. They also said, your baby is not big enough. you are a bad mother. (!!!)

now they told me my baby has a hernia. I am gonna check it out but I am quite doubtful.... to say the least. I can't believe we pay for this service.

I hope I'll have better luck when I switch neighborhoods. Is there any hope?

Diamond Member Joined: May 10 2010 Posts: 2975

I've had pretty bad experiences at Tipat Chalav, though nothing like what you describe. That's why I haven't taken her since she was 7 months old and she's now 17 months. I'm not interested in being yelled at and criticized for not feeding her enough (she refuses to eat), "spoiling" her because I try to comfort her wehn she's crying and I do not let her CIO at night, being told that she's too old to be nursing, etc. I know someone in my neighborhood just went to a different nurse that was not officially our neighborhood's nurse. Do you think you can try something like taht? So sorry that you are being treated this way. you should not go back!

Diamond Member Joined: May 24 2007 Posts: 4616

I go to tipat chalav at the klalit clinic near me and I don't have any of these issues

Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 6:15 am Post subject: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

I've had to deal with Tipat Chalav in a few different places, and this horror story of yours does not sound typical.

I'm so sorry you had such a bad time.

Yes, it does get better. Maybe you can just not go there again until you move to the new place.

Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 6:18 am Post subject: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 6:20 am Post subject: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

I was quite glad when we moved and were able to switch clinics. I think sometimes it's just the luck of the draw with the nurse. At our current clinic the nurse already knows us (child #3, #2 at this clinic)...she knows not to even ask certain things, and what shots we don't give.

How's your Hebrew? Sometimes if they think you're "fresh off the plane" they don't treat you so well, because they know you won't make a fuss.
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Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 6:21 am Post subject: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

Yes, they are nuts. I had horrible experiences with Tipat Chalav all the time and the nurses and their doctors only wasted my time and energy with their negative comments and false alarms, until the moment I found out that I am not legally obliged to go there for advice or waging. Going to Tipat Chalav is not mandatory. I decided to go for vaccines only and I would be happy to find a private place to do that, for $$$$$ of course, just to avoid them. And also, I know some other women annoyed by them.

Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 6:21 am Post subject: Re: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 6:30 am Post subject: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

Mine isn't like this at all. Mine patiently shows a booklet of safety with pictures, such as appropriate car seats, etc., does thorough development tests, discusses medical conditions respectfully, provides pita triangles and gevina levena, and a comfy nursing room, and is very helpful.

I heard that you can get vaccines for free, and skip all that advice. But that they dislike you for doing that and treat you worse. In certain areas, I guess.

Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 6:41 am Post subject: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

Mine here is wonderful. I wasn't in love with the nurse we had in Y-m, but nothing like the horror you describe! Go to another clinic.
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Active Poster Joined: Jan 12 2012 Posts: 96

Maybe I should open up a new clinic for Americans to give shots and well visits. I'd make a killing. and it would be a chessed. (I am anyway a healthcare admin Very Happy

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to the lady who said she goes to the tipat chalav in the klalit clinic... so do I. where is yours located? (I would be shocked if it's the same one)

I do love the pediatrician I use. Maybe I'll ask her if there is any alternative. I can't really not go because my baby needs his shots on time.... he's only 2 months old so there are a lot of important ones still.

Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 6:44 am Post subject: Re: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 6:49 am Post subject: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

I just go for vacines and completely ignore all their hare-brained "advice."

I made this decision when I brought in my infant son for a routine appointment, After looking at her CDC charts, the nurse declared, "Ma'am, your son is too tall!!!"

I deadpanned: "Should I cut off his head or his feet"?

Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 7:18 am Post subject: Re: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

Gold Member Joined: Jul 14 2009 Posts: 2094

my TC lady is actually really nice, but I take what she says w/ a grain of salt. They are very into "the charts" so when my super petite friend takes her baby in & they say he's small she's like, look at me.

Gold Member Joined: Aug 24 2010 Posts: 1465

I know a lot of people complain about Tipat Chalav, and I was really worried about going. Turns out the nurse we were assigned to is very nice (a bit old, perhaps, and had of hearing, but...) and she doesn't bother me about anything. She pointed out a few things that I knew about already from doctors and stuff, and was actually the only member of the medical system here that followed up with me about treatment and progress. My son was pretty small for his age, and while she told me where he was holding, she told me not to worry, and that we'd chart his growth and see his progress for the next while.

She always answers all my questions - like when I should start feeding him what, etc... and in general, I'm very happy with her.

OP, maybe ask to have an appointment with a different nurse. Ask around your neighborhood until you find a nurse people are happy with. There are good and bad staff everywhere. It's not specific to tipat chalav.

Also, sometimes you have to learn to ignore things. Let things go. You sound (imo) like you're overreacting, but if you're really not happy, then just ask for a different nurse.

Gold Member Joined: Jan 03 2011 Posts: 1503

The best thing they ever told me: My babies tush crack isn't symmetrical. They can be totally insane.
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Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 8:24 am Post subject: re: Tipat Chalav= nuts!

G-d bless America! Freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom to not tolerate abuse of any kind by anyone.
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