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| Do you light only 2 candles or do you add a new one for every child? |
| 2 candles (excluding adding a candle for missing a week) |
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| 2 candles plus 1 for every child. (excluding adding a candle for missing a week) |
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Posted: Tue, May 29 2012, 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family membe |
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| Chalomatok wrote: | AFAIK lighting an additional candle for each child represents the additional spiritual light that has come into the world with the birth of each new child.
The physical light represents spiritual light, for which reason in chabad, we begin lighting from the age of 3, or sometimes even earlier if the girl understands the concept- in order to add light in the world. |
This is what I learned too! I light 2 + 1 for each child and when DD turns 3, she`ll light one too iyH. This is dh`s family`s minhag as in my family we started lighting as soon as we could stand on our own and hold the candle (around 1 ), but as far as I can tell, most Chabad people wait til 3 and I like the idea of dd looking forward to it and feeling special. One of my sils gets her daughters to light the yt before they turn 3 so they say shehechyanu their first time lighting. I really like this idea and will probably do the same as DD is born the last day of pesach, so she`ll light a week early
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Posted: Tue, May 29 2012, 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family membe |
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| 1Life2Live wrote: | | 2 + 1 for each child. The only time I've ever seen only 2 candles was in a Yekke home. |
nopes its a sefradi minhag too...
I light just 2
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Posted: Wed, May 30 2012, 12:02 am Post subject: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family member? |
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Haven't read through EVERY single reply, but from what I did, I haven't noticed another option....
My friend lights 7 candles from when she got married. No adding.
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Posted: Wed, May 30 2012, 12:28 am Post subject: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family member? |
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My mother lit two when she got married, and added one when my oldest brother was born. She lit 3 candles for many years (even though she had 9 children by then) and one day decided to change her minhag and light 1 per child.
I also light 2+ one per child. At least two are oil (usually all ) and as a guest I just light two.
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Posted: Wed, May 30 2012, 1:39 am Post subject: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family member? |
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| My mother, mil, and all grandmothers only lit 2, so that is what I do. I wasn't going to start a new minhag.
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Posted: Wed, May 30 2012, 1:45 am Post subject: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family member? |
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I light two and then add for each child.
The funny thing is that very soon after we got married, I forgot to light one week (a whole story as to why ) and the rav told me that I had to add another one if I forgot. So, I was lighting three even before my daughter was a thought in our eye.
Then it happened again and I am lighting four and once again, we are only three. So, for almost my entired married life I have been lighting one more candle than people in our family.
My grandmother used to light an entire candelabra and she only had one child. She was lighting for her family lost in the shoa. I guess another minhag.
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Posted: Wed, May 30 2012, 1:51 am Post subject: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family member? |
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I light 2 +1 for each kid.
My mil lights 2 and then 1 for all the kids as a group so it's a total of 3. _________________ Don't worry that children never listen to you; worry that they are always watching you
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Posted: Wed, May 30 2012, 3:13 am Post subject: Re: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family membe |
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| freidasima wrote: | It comes from the fact that a woman traditionally did not get out of bed for a week after giving birth and as she was sleeping/nursing full time that week and one did not disturb her, she also did not bench lecht that shabbos. Hence for each child it is customary that she would add an additional candle, just as one does if one forgets to bench lecht, that's where it comes from, or so I was told.
We light two when we are married as a couple and then add one per child. However it isn't customary for some to do it on yuntif because if one forgets to light for yuntif (unlike for shabbos) one doesn't add a candle for the rest of one's life, only for shabbos. Also the business about oil versus candles is from a debate whether one can light from candles altogether, which most poskim allow, certainly.
What is customary is that when one is away from home, one lights two candles, because of the tircha for one's hosts or for onesself, no matter how many one is used to lighting at home. |
Thanks I was going to say the same thing, although never heard about not lighting more candles on YT, but that totally makes sense.
BTW my mother lights one candle for each family member and so does my MIL but my Bubby (mother's mother) a"h only lit two - she was Litvak. Most people I know light one fore each family member. _________________ גשם, גשם בוא!
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Posted: Wed, May 30 2012, 8:15 am Post subject: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family member? |
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Another member - Layke - asked me to post this for her:
"My mother z"l lit only two candles and I do likewise. She told me that the reason she does this was that there was a pogrom in her small Ukrainian birthplace one Friday evening (sometimes in 1918-1919 , when she was a young girl.) The perpertrators of the pogrom used the cnadlesticks they found in the houses to set fire to the thatched roofs. The Rov of the town said that the women should light only two candles henceforth, in memory of this terrible pogrom." _________________ "Olam Chessed Yiboneh", Tehilim 89.
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Posted: Wed, May 30 2012, 11:59 am Post subject: Re: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family membe |
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| busydev wrote: | | Ruchel wrote: | | Chani can you explain the shalom bayis link? or did you mean because your husband wants many candles? |
I was always taught that the reason for lighting candles was for shalom bayis- the light will allow people to see and thereby not have problems and be able to have a peaceful home.
I also dont get the 2 oil and 2 candle and additional candle per kid. if you need oil for all shittos why not just 2 oil and additional candle per kid? |
I learned from dh's rav to turn on a non-florescent light in the room where we are eating immediate before lighting. This way I am doing something to increase light in the room which is linked to shalom bayis. I once turned on the light. Lit my candles. Made the bracha. and when I uncovered my eyes realized there had been no oil in my cups and the flame finished burning a few minutes later. My rav said the in such a case I could rely on the on turning on the lights.
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Posted: Wed, May 30 2012, 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: re: Do you light 2 candles or one for every family membe |
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| shabbatiscoming wrote: | | My grandmother used to light an entire candelabra and she only had one child. She was lighting for her family lost in the shoa. I guess another minhag. |
My grandmother used to do that to.
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