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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 1:47 am    Post subject: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
My DH and I are BH going to Israel in the very near future. We are thrilled to be going but have a couple questions I was hoping someone could help us out with.

First, I recently read there is a light rail or monorail that goes through some areas of Jerusalem. Can anyone tell me where the monorail begins and ends, and how expensive it is? Does the monorail stop at any stations my DH and I should avoid?

Also, while there we will have to make some trips from Ramat Eshkol to Ramat Beit Shemesh( I think it's RBS, is this near the Shaare Tzedek Medical Center in Jerusalem). How far are the from each other? How long would it take to get from one place to the other? Is there a good place to meet in the middle?


Thanks in advance for your help!
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
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My DH and I are BH going to Israel in the very near future. We are thrilled to be going but have a couple questions I was hoping someone could help us out with.

First, I recently read there is a light rail or monorail that goes through some areas of Jerusalem. Can anyone tell me where the monorail begins and ends, and how expensive it is? Does the monorail stop at any stations my DH and I should avoid?

Also, while there we will have to make some trips from Ramat Eshkol to Ramat Beit Shemesh( I think it's RBS, is this near the Shaare Tzedek Medical Center in Jerusalem). How far are the from each other? How long would it take to get from one place to the other? Is there a good place to meet in the middle?


Thanks in advance for your help!

Train goes from Pisgat Zeev to Har Hertzel. Now work is being done to extend the line so that it will start from Neve Yaakov. It costs the same as the bus, you can buy tickets for the month, a few rides, or one time ride.

Stations to avoid? its gonna be a bit hard to avoid them if you are already on the train, so not sure what you mean about that.

RBS is outside of Jerusalem - takes about 40 mins in the car. By public trans it can take about 1-1.5 hours.
SZ by bus takes about 40 mins. You can take the train there. By car would take about 12-15 mins in car.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 1:54 am    Post subject: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/jeru/jerusalem-map.png

That's a map of the light rail. You want to avoid getting off at the stops marked Shuafat. I think the fare is 6.60 shekel.

Ramat Bet Shemesh is a city a good 45 minutes out of Jerusalem.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 1:57 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
amother wrote:
My DH and I are BH going to Israel in the very near future. We are thrilled to be going but have a couple questions I was hoping someone could help us out with.

First, I recently read there is a light rail or monorail that goes through some areas of Jerusalem. Can anyone tell me where the monorail begins and ends, and how expensive it is? Does the monorail stop at any stations my DH and I should avoid?

Also, while there we will have to make some trips from Ramat Eshkol to Ramat Beit Shemesh( I think it's RBS, is this near the Shaare Tzedek Medical Center in Jerusalem). How far are the from each other? How long would it take to get from one place to the other? Is there a good place to meet in the middle?


Thanks in advance for your help!


First of all, go here: http://www.abmaps.com/#lt=32.104966709886426&lg=35.19421&zl=-1

It's a really good street map of Israel.

Second, here's the site for the Jerusalem light rail: http://www.citypass.co.il/ See where it says "Depot" to the right? Well, most of the stops ABOVE it are in Arab villages but chances are you won't need anything there.

Ramat Eshkol is a neighborhood of Jerusalem. Ramat Bet Shemesh is an off-shoot of Bet Shemesh... which is about an hour south of Jerusalem. The neighborhood opposite Shaarei Tzedek is Bet Hakerem.

The light rail and the Jerusalem bus is 6.60 and you have 90 minutes to transfer to a different bus or lightrail.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
lilacdreams wrote:
amother wrote:
My DH and I are BH going to Israel in the very near future. We are thrilled to be going but have a couple questions I was hoping someone could help us out with.

First, I recently read there is a light rail or monorail that goes through some areas of Jerusalem. Can anyone tell me where the monorail begins and ends, and how expensive it is? Does the monorail stop at any stations my DH and I should avoid?

Also, while there we will have to make some trips from Ramat Eshkol to Ramat Beit Shemesh( I think it's RBS, is this near the Shaare Tzedek Medical Center in Jerusalem). How far are the from each other? How long would it take to get from one place to the other? Is there a good place to meet in the middle?


Thanks in advance for your help!

Train goes from Pisgat Zeev to Har Hertzel. Now work is being done to extend the line so that it will start from Neve Yaakov. It costs the same as the bus, you can buy tickets for the month, a few rides, or one time ride.

Stations to avoid? its gonna be a bit hard to avoid them if you are already on the train, so not sure what you mean about that.

RBS is outside of Jerusalem - takes about 40 mins in the car. By public trans it can take about 1-1.5 hours.
SZ by bus takes about 40 mins. You can take the train there. By car would take about 12-15 mins in car.



Hi Lilac, Thanks so much for answering my questions!

Great to know that the train is an option! By stations to avoid, I meant certain areas that may not be very friendly to obviously frum Jews, or places that aren't safe/well light at night. Don't get me wrong, I love Eretz Yisrael and feel much safer there than I do where I live.

Thanks again for your help, we (DH and I) are both so thrilled to be coming to Israel.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 2:08 am    Post subject: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
if you avoid "the stops after the depot" you wont be able to go to Pisgat Zeev/Neve Yaakov.
And FYI the latest incident (the stabbing) was in Pisgat Zeev, not even at train stop in the arab areas. If anything there is more security at the arab stations. And if you're going to avoid 'arab stations' what about Damascus Gate? Its where you get off to go to the kotel.....the whole avoiding stations is a bit ridiculous to me.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
lilacdreams wrote:
if you avoid "the stops after the depot" you wont be able to go to Pisgat Zeev/Neve Yaakov.
And FYI the latest incident (the stabbing) was in Pisgat Zeev, not even at train stop in the arab areas. If anything there is more security at the arab stations. And if you're going to avoid 'arab stations' what about Damascus Gate? Its where you get off to go to the kotel.....the whole avoiding stations is a bit ridiculous to me.


We weren't planning to dafka avoid going to any place, we just wanted to see what locals thought so we could plan accordingly. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 2:22 am    Post subject: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
I actually think the train is safer than buses - there are so many security guards and inspectors on the trains every ride - whereas the buses there are none. There are only 2 or maybe 3 stops in Shuafat/Beit Hanina and thent he train goes onto Pisgat zeev (nice big Mall there) and then to Neve Yaakov, which has the closest swimming pool to Ramat Eshkol.
Good luck with the move - is it permament or a visit?
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 2:22 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
YESHASettler wrote:
amother wrote:
My DH and I are BH going to Israel in the very near future. We are thrilled to be going but have a couple questions I was hoping someone could help us out with.

First, I recently read there is a light rail or monorail that goes through some areas of Jerusalem. Can anyone tell me where the monorail begins and ends, and how expensive it is? Does the monorail stop at any stations my DH and I should avoid?

Also, while there we will have to make some trips from Ramat Eshkol to Ramat Beit Shemesh( I think it's RBS, is this near the Shaare Tzedek Medical Center in Jerusalem). How far are the from each other? How long would it take to get from one place to the other? Is there a good place to meet in the middle?


Thanks in advance for your help!


First of all, go here: http://www.abmaps.com/#lt=32.104966709886426&lg=35.19421&zl=-1

It's a really good street map of Israel.

Second, here's the site for the Jerusalem light rail: http://www.citypass.co.il/ See where it says "Depot" to the right? Well, most of the stops ABOVE it are in Arab villages but chances are you won't need anything there.

Ramat Eshkol is a neighborhood of Jerusalem. Ramat Bet Shemesh is an off-shoot of Bet Shemesh... which is about an hour south of Jerusalem. The neighborhood opposite Shaarei Tzedek is Bet Hakerem.

The light rail and the Jerusalem bus is 6.60 and you have 90 minutes to transfer to a different bus or lightrail.



Thanks so much Yesha, this is exactly what I was looking for. I must have messed in thinking it was Ramat Bet Shemesh. Hubby is a med student and coming to do some work for a program at Shaare Tzedek. Hopefully it's closer to Ramat Eshkol. Thanks so much for your help!
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 2:31 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
amother wrote:
YESHASettler wrote:
amother wrote:
My DH and I are BH going to Israel in the very near future. We are thrilled to be going but have a couple questions I was hoping someone could help us out with.

First, I recently read there is a light rail or monorail that goes through some areas of Jerusalem. Can anyone tell me where the monorail begins and ends, and how expensive it is? Does the monorail stop at any stations my DH and I should avoid?

Also, while there we will have to make some trips from Ramat Eshkol to Ramat Beit Shemesh( I think it's RBS, is this near the Shaare Tzedek Medical Center in Jerusalem). How far are the from each other? How long would it take to get from one place to the other? Is there a good place to meet in the middle?


Thanks in advance for your help!


First of all, go here: http://www.abmaps.com/#lt=32.104966709886426&lg=35.19421&zl=-1

It's a really good street map of Israel.

Second, here's the site for the Jerusalem light rail: http://www.citypass.co.il/ See where it says "Depot" to the right? Well, most of the stops ABOVE it are in Arab villages but chances are you won't need anything there.

Ramat Eshkol is a neighborhood of Jerusalem. Ramat Bet Shemesh is an off-shoot of Bet Shemesh... which is about an hour south of Jerusalem. The neighborhood opposite Shaarei Tzedek is Bet Hakerem.

The light rail and the Jerusalem bus is 6.60 and you have 90 minutes to transfer to a different bus or lightrail.



Thanks so much Yesha, this is exactly what I was looking for. I must have messed in thinking it was Ramat Bet Shemesh. Hubby is a med student and coming to do some work for a program at Shaare Tzedek. Hopefully it's closer to Ramat Eshkol. Thanks so much for your help!

Shaarei Tzedek hospital is not very close to Ramat Eshkol, at least not by public transportation.
What people meant by avoiding certain stops was that you probably shouldn't be getting off in Arab areas, I'm not sure if that's true, that they are unsafe and I've never been on the side of the train route, but I highly doubt you would have a need to get off there.
Good luck, you might want to find a place to stay that is closer to ST hospital if that's an option for you. Bayit Vegan is a frum neighborhood that is walking distance from the hospital. There are plenty of English speakers there, and you might be able to find a short term rental there more suited to your needs.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
chanchy123 wrote:
Shaarei Tzedek hospital is not very close to Ramat Eshkol, at least not by public transportation.
What people meant by avoiding certain stops was that you probably shouldn't be getting off in Arab areas, I'm not sure if that's true, that they are unsafe and I've never been on the side of the train route, but I highly doubt you would have a need to get off there.
Good luck, you might want to find a place to stay that is closer to ST hospital if that's an option for you. Bayit Vegan is a frum neighborhood that is walking distance from the hospital. There are plenty of English speakers there, and you might be able to find a short term rental there more suited to your needs.


Actually, if you get on the light rail at Givat Hamivtar (Ammunition Hill) and take it almost to the end (the Yaffeh Nof stop), you'll get off pretty much across the street from Shaarei Tzedek.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 2:51 am    Post subject: Re: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
lilacdreams wrote:
I actually think the train is safer than buses - there are so many security guards and inspectors on the trains every ride - whereas the buses there are none. There are only 2 or maybe 3 stops in Shuafat/Beit Hanina and thent he train goes onto Pisgat zeev (nice big Mall there) and then to Neve Yaakov, which has the closest swimming pool to Ramat Eshkol.
Good luck with the move - is it permament or a visit?


I'm glad to hear that the train is a bit safer then the buses. I have no problem taking buses, but I do like the idea of using the train when we can.

For now sadly, it's not permanent. However, Hubby and I want to make Aaliyah when he's at a point where he can in his schooling. So this is a late honeymoon, a work trip, learning trip and G-d willing a pilot trip. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 2:51 am    Post subject: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
I don't think there's any reason that you would get off at the arab East Jerusalem train stops... there's nothing there that you want. That being said, you really can't avoid the arabs, unless you never leave Ramat Eshkol. You will see arabs in the city center, in the hospitals and in shopping malls. Usually, there's nothing to worry about. If there were no arabs, none of us could get our groceries delivered!
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 2:54 am    Post subject: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
Look, I get that the chances of anyone here getting on or off a stop in Bet Hanina or Shuafat are slim to none, however the train does pass through there, it does travel at a fairly slow speed (relative to cars and buses) and quite frankly, I will admit, I was a bit uncomfortable traveling through these villages and feeling rather exposed.

And I've been living on the West Bank for 15 years now, so I'm pretty jaded about some things.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 3:03 am    Post subject: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
Thanks both EWA and Yesha. I used to know Israel so well, and now I'm embarrassed to say I can barely remember where everything is.

But, in my own city I do know where not, to go, and I really think it's great that you ladies can advise me. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 3:16 am    Post subject: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
I know you probably got your answers, but Ramat Eshkol to Shaarei Tzedek isn't such a bad commute as commutes go. There are buses that take anywhere from 20 minutes to 50 minutes depending on the time of day, and the train which is probably about 1/2 an hour or so, but that probably also depends on the day. The transportation from those areas are both very good, with lots of buses and the train passing through.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 3:46 am    Post subject: Re: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
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If there were no arabs, none of us could get our groceries delivered!


Um, no. There are Jewish delivery men, and others.
Anyone else remember when an Arab delivery man stabbed a woman in her home?
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 4:28 am    Post subject: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
hey, I live right by the train and use it alot to get to the central bus station, rechov yafo, the shuk...
you will see arabs especially that it does pass arab neighborhoods like shaar shchem. but there are security guys and train guys all around and alot of jews. you will be surprised at how may arabs u see on the train but just dont pay attention to them and you'll be fine Smile
I waited with my husbad at the shaar shchem train station few times, there r jews there as well as arabs and BH its not dangerous.
have a safe trip here and back Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 5:45 am    Post subject: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
And I know a few people from Neve Yaakov who get off in Ramat Eshkol to switch, rather than French Hill (which is more convenient) because of the Arab issue.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 25 2012, 12:23 pm    Post subject: re: Need some help Israeli ladies :)
 
Thanks so much everyone!! Really appreciate everyone help and info!!
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