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Do you consider not kosher tzitzis shaimos?

 
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do you consider not kosher tzitzis shaimos?
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PostPosted: Tue, Dec 06 2011, 2:11 pm    Post subject: do you consider not kosher tzitzis shaimos?
 
I have a whole pile and from what I understand some people do and some don't. What do you do? The yarmulkas we throw away.
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PostPosted: Tue, Dec 06 2011, 2:20 pm    Post subject:
 
I have a bag full. when pesach comes around I take it with the rest of my shaimos and give it for genizah.
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PostPosted: Tue, Dec 06 2011, 3:12 pm    Post subject:
 
I was told to wrap them twice, and put them in the regular garbage.
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PostPosted: Tue, Dec 06 2011, 3:56 pm    Post subject:
 
I was also told they can be thrown out, but separately from the regular garbage.
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PostPosted: Tue, Dec 06 2011, 4:01 pm    Post subject: re: do you consider not kosher tzitzis shaimos?
 
A bracha was made on it and twas used for a dvar mitzvah I would definitely not have the heart to just dump em in regular trash. Its lightweight and small and I usually save them till pesach comes around. And even the ones that are pusil I dont dump.
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PostPosted: Tue, Dec 06 2011, 4:06 pm    Post subject: re: do you consider not kosher tzitzis shaimos?
 
The major Lakewood poskim hold that you put it in a plastic bag, tie it shut and throw it in reg. garbage.

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PostPosted: Tue, Dec 06 2011, 11:37 pm    Post subject: re: do you consider not kosher tzitzis shaimos?
 
according to what I learnt, the strings have to be buried. You can cut off the strings and throw out the shirt part.

Tzitzis are a real mitzvah from the torah so they are shaimos. There is no mitzvah in the torah to wear a yarmulka (its in the gemarah). So yamulkas are not shaimos.
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PostPosted: Tue, Dec 06 2011, 11:43 pm    Post subject: re: do you consider not kosher tzitzis shaimos?
 
Dh does. He keeps them together with the rest of our shaimos.
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PostPosted: Wed, Dec 07 2011, 1:29 am    Post subject: re: do you consider not kosher tzitzis shaimos?
 
I have PILES of non kosher tzitzis that need to be taken to a shaimos drop off! DH strongly holds that a child may not wear non kosher tzitizis because of chinuch, in the same way that one my not give a child a lulav and lemon on Sukkos. So he is constantly checking the boys' tzitzis and giving me the ones he won't allow to be in circulation anymore.
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PostPosted: Wed, Dec 07 2011, 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: re: do you consider not kosher tzitzis shaimos?
 
TranquilityAndPeace wrote:
I have PILES of non kosher tzitzis that need to be taken to a shaimos drop off! DH strongly holds that a child may not wear non kosher tzitizis because of chinuch, in the same way that one my not give a child a lulav and lemon on Sukkos. So he is constantly checking the boys' tzitzis and giving me the ones he won't allow to be in circulation anymore.
well, he's right - I also was told to wrap them and dump them. (I don't know that putting them into our already overloaded sheimos is a proper hidur - AYLOR.)
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PostPosted: Wed, Dec 07 2011, 2:05 am    Post subject:
 
They're not shaimos by definition (shaimos is, by definition, something printed with Hashem's name on it). HOWEVER, they are kodesh, and should be sent to the geniza, like shaimos.
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PostPosted: Wed, Dec 07 2011, 3:13 am    Post subject: re: do you consider not kosher tzitzis shaimos?
 
Is it awful that I never remember?
I have tons of torn fringes sitting around because I never remember if I can throw them away.
I have vague feeling that we're supposed to double bag them and throw them out - but I can never remember to ask DH about it and he keeps thinking I'm crazy for forgetting (I have four younger sisters, by the time my brothers came along I was almost out of the house, I didn't grow up with tzitzis all over).
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PostPosted: Wed, Dec 07 2011, 9:47 pm    Post subject:
 
I had this argument with my son, called the Rov, and found out he (son) was right. They are not shaimos. They are thrown out-wrapped in a bag. IIRC, its not shaimos cuz tzitis are not kadosh on their own. If you have just the strings, they mean nothing. They are there to make a four cornered garment allowed to be worn.
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