TTI- what was your experience

Silver Member Joined: Dec 02 2010 Posts: 632

what was yoiur experience going with TTI as far as transfering your credits after getting your AA
also did you do cleps or did u go the long way by courses?
wat made you choose TTI vs a reg colleage or online classes

Gold Member Joined: Jul 30 2009 Posts: 1679

Went to Ma'alot in Israel, had to get my credits sent to ACE for accreditation (sp?), then transferred the ACE credits to Thomas Edison State College (since Touro and most reputable colleges do not take Ma'alot/ACE credits).

Got my credits messed up (Ma'alot counted classes differently/I was only allowed to transfer a certain number from ACE), and two of my classes didn't end up counting, so I was stuck taking a few classes over.

To save money and prevent having to transfer credits from another school, I started taking my last batch of classes as online courses at Thomas Edison.

Please, people.

SEND YOUR DAUGHTERS TO A REAL COLLEGE.

Trying to do one of these accelerated programs only adds to education inflation. Unless you're REALLY, REALLY good, you will cram and forget everything, and have a degree that means nothing at the end of your 18 month program.
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Senior Member Joined: Jun 05 2011 Posts: 175

Actually, about transferring credits and getting into Touro, I got into Touro for the Master's program with a BA through Thomas Edison. I called them and discussed this Thomas Edison issue with them and they said that if I could show that I had the credits I needed to get in (prereq's) and my grades were high enough than I would be admitted. Well I was!

Please use the spell check function and review all of your enrollment documents as well as anything you hand in and e-mails you send to your instructors.

If you are in an on-line instructional program, please use spell check and review your writing for grammar and "yeshivish" language constructions before submitting to the group discussions. All of the work you do in these written formats affect your instructor's impression of your ability, as well as your future professional reputation with your peers.

Wishing you much success in college!

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Gold Member Joined: Oct 14 2010 Posts: 1214

I went to Touro for undergrad and did TTI's master's in special education. I will say this. Don't do TTI thinking its the "easy way out" True undergraduate degrees seems to be a lot of fluff, but it really is a lot more--its learning how to think, how to study, how to write well, how to work with other classmates, how to do research--skillls you will need in almost any profession (or to really stand out in your profession). In the process of college you learn more about yourself, your options, and you begin to network. When I was with my TTI cohort (ok admittedly about 6 years ago) My teacher had to spend a significant amount of time explaining what a thesis sentence was in an essay! TTI is really for women who need a change in career, or to "get certified" quickly (the main reason I did it this way) because they are already teaching for many years, or for the chassidish community who simply have no other appropriate pathway. Right now there are no "quick and easy" answers to parnassah. If you have the time and the kochos to put into your degree I STRONGLY advocate to do something that you REALLY want to do and learn. That will ultimately be the fastest and cheapest method to parnassah in the long run. I don't know much about their programs beside their sp. ed. program, but these days with the job market so tight, do yourself the favor by being trained well in something that you really want to do.
TTI has its place, but make sure its the right place for you.

Gold Member Joined: Oct 14 2010 Posts: 1214

I went to Touro for undergrad and did TTI's master's in special education. I will say this. Don't do TTI thinking its the "easy way out" True undergraduate degrees seems to be a lot of fluff, but it really is a lot more--its learning how to think, how to study, how to write well, how to work with other classmates, how to do research--skillls you will need in almost any profession (or to really stand out in your profession). In the process of college you learn more about yourself, your options, and you begin to network. When I was with my TTI cohort (ok admittedly about 6 years ago) My teacher had to spend a significant amount of time explaining what a thesis sentence was in an essay! TTI is really for women who need a change in career, or to "get certified" quickly (the main reason I did it this way) because they are already teaching for many years, or for the chassidish community who simply have no other appropriate pathway. Right now there are no "quick and easy" answers to parnassah. If you have the time and the kochos to put into your degree I STRONGLY advocate to do something that you REALLY want to do and learn. That will ultimately be the fastest and cheapest method to parnassah in the long run. I don't know much about their programs beside their sp. ed. program, but these days with the job market so tight, do yourself the favor by being trained well in something that you really want to do.
TTI has its place, but make sure its the right place for you.

Silver Member Joined: Dec 02 2010 Posts: 632

Well said Miami 85- I actually had in mind getting the easy way out for my aa/ba to "get certified" and if I continue with a masters, I'd do it properly....

I have a lot of friends who did TTI for undergrad and went on to regular schools for MA programs.
One of my friends is going for PA now (she did prerequisites at a regular community college), another is doing social work at Adelphi (she didn't need prerequisites).
It's a good regular bachelor's degree that you can get quickly. They also have more MA programs now I think. (not just Special Ed)

Can you tell me about the Maalot program in Israel? What did you study? I have a friend considering it. ARe the teachers professional? Is it a good program? Do you learn a lot?

Gold Member Joined: Jun 05 2011 Posts: 1017

I used TTI for my undergraduate.
I started it in 12th grade and by the time I completed sem I had my B.A. I worked really hard those 2 summers, took some college classes in 11th and 12th grade, and finished up during my year in Israel.
I did some cleps and some "real" courses.
I would recommend TTI for someone is very self motivated and disciplined.

Gold Member Joined: May 12 2008 Posts: 1282

I did my degree through moreshet, which is like maalot but the kids classes are kiruv training. I loved it and I had no problems getting my transcript or degree. However it's through Thomas Edison which doesn't give a gpa and it was expensive. Tti is definitely cheaper and faster. But I didn't know about it back then...
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Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 7:20 pm Post subject:

I agree that TTI is not for everyone but it really does have it's place. I've been out of school for 12 years and am currently finishing up my BA through TTI (really Excelsior College). I came in with about 80 credits, and 3 cleps that I took back in high school. (the rest of my credits are REAL... I took actual courses and worked very hard) I am on track now to finish my BA by June through a combination of testing and actual courses at a local college. The tests I am taking are not CLEPs but Excelsior College tests and a few Jewish studies tests... they are actually not as easy as that sounds... I have been studying 40-50 hours a week... more some weeks.

I went to TTI for both my BA and my MA.

I also went to a secular university for a second Master's in a related field, so I really do believe that I'm qualified to compare the two situations.

Assuming that you view a college education as a means to an end, meaning you just need the degree for parnassah reasons, a BA from TTI/Excelsior is perfect. You do need to be self motivated, but I really enjoyed the process. I got my BA in Liberal Arts in 8 months, and moved on to a more serious Master's. I didn't care at all about my BA - it was just a piece of paper that I needed to move on to the step I really cared about, which is my MA. I know that many who value "education for the sake of education" will slaughter me for saying this. I did take separate face to face classes for anything related to my actual field of choice (I.e. prerequisites), though.

I used TTI for my Master's and I had an amazing experience. We were affiliated with an excellent university, and personally, I found my educational experience to be superior to that of my second MA degree in a City College. Also, IRL a degree from a well-known university, which is where my TTI diploma is from, is more valuable than one from Touro College which no one out of NY/NJ ever heard of. There is no difference between my diploma and the diplomas of those who actually attended said university.

Hope some of this helps.

I went to a respected, secular, mainstream college.

I hope this is not LH, but I once subbed for a friend of mine who teaches in Raizel Reit. There were about 15-20 students. Maybe 5 of them were actively engaged in the lesson, and that's a generous estimate - maybe 3 were with me the whole time and another handful seemed to fade in and out. My lesson was professionally relevant to their field, and included interaction so you could see which students were awake. Some were doing their own stuff - grading papers from their side teaching job maybe, whatever. Quite a few spent the whole time texting nonstop. If you send one or two texts because you left husband/kids/whatever at home and must check in, maybe I could be flexible. But frankly, in what you're calling a "real" college, that would never fly. The friend I subbed for confirmed that this is fairly normal.

Anyway, it sort of soured my image of TTI and while I do believe there is a good education there for those who want to take advantage of it, the fact that people can just do this and still move through their system makes the degree a little meaningless to me. If I were doing the hiring, I would definitely gravitate towards people with "real" degrees.

I don't understand why miami85's example of the teacher explaining thesis statements proves that it's not the easy way out. In any serious college you would be expected to KNOW these things already and if you didn't, you'd have to make up for it on your own time/effort. I teach thesis statements to eighth graders. By the end of high school they should be second nature.

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What's AA?

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I know many people who have completed their degree thru TTI and have found jobs or have gotten into MA programs. The competition is tough but... that's life... TTI now has a website www.testingandtraining.com which gives brief descriptions about their programs. They have a new one Office Administration Certificate Program which might interest someone who isn't ready to commit to a full BA but wants to learn computer skills (and no matter what you do in the work place, we all need those!) Oh, BTW the correct spelling of Raizel's name is Raizel Reit (not Raizel Rite or Raizel Wright)