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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 9:05 am Post subject: Touring city in Europe |
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| I'm looking for a nice place to go in Europe in the week of the 25 december with kosher food (restaurants, chabad,etc) and stunning scenery!!! Anyone have an idea?
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 9:39 am Post subject: re: Touring city in Europe |
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Venice, Paris, Prague?
all are really nice for a few days and have plenty kosher requirements.
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| Switzerland is a great place for the winter with stunning scenery. Paris has all the Jewish stuff but the scenery is not stunning. Venice is not so great in the cold but it can be done.
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 9:57 am Post subject: Re: re: Touring city in Europe |
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| smilethere wrote: | Venice, Paris, Prague?
all are really nice for a few days and have plenty kosher requirements. |
Venice is too expensive, Paris is too close Prague is too historic for me. Thx anyway!!
Anyone know about things in Spain or Italy?
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| intrigued wrote: | | Switzerland is a great place for the winter with stunning scenery. Paris has all the Jewish stuff but the scenery is not stunning. Venice is not so great in the cold but it can be done. |
Switzerland is too expensive and I've been there a few times. THX!
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 9:59 am Post subject: Re: re: Touring city in Europe |
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| sleepwalking wrote: | | smilethere wrote: | Venice, Paris, Prague?
all are really nice for a few days and have plenty kosher requirements. |
Venice is too expensive, Paris is too close (I live in Belgium) Prague is too historic for me. Thx anyway!!
Anyone know about things in Spain or Italy? |
Venice is in Italy and I don't see why it would be more expensive than other Cities there. How about the South of France?
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 10:01 am Post subject: re: Touring city in Europe |
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Copenhagen is nice, lots to see and walk around, but there are no resturants, although the chabad can provide you with meals. (eat in chabad house or send to your hotel)
What about the south of france? Nice/marseilles/Monte carlo/cannes?
London? 5 hours on the eurostar.
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 10:02 am Post subject: Re: re: Touring city in Europe |
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| intrigued wrote: | | sleepwalking wrote: | | smilethere wrote: | Venice, Paris, Prague?
all are really nice for a few days and have plenty kosher requirements. |
Venice is too expensive, Paris is too close (I live in Belgium) Prague is too historic for me. Thx anyway!!
Anyone know about things in Spain or Italy? |
Venice is in Italy and I don't see why it would be more expensive than other Cities there. How about the South of France? |
What is there to do in S.France?
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 10:02 am Post subject: re: Touring city in Europe |
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| athens - chabad just opened a resturant there.
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 10:20 am Post subject: re: Touring city in Europe |
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I've never been but I've heard that Rome is beautiful and has great kosher restaurants. _________________ Be kind to your knees, you'll miss them when they're gone.
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 11:27 am Post subject: re: Touring city in Europe |
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Rome is GREAT. And the shopping... omg
Milan also, but fewer Jewish stuff, the kehila is much less observant there.
South France: depends what you like. For me there isn't much to do. But Jewish wise you have a good choice in Marseille. If you go for Monaco, live in Beausoleil instead, prices are more normal, kinda! Don't expect Jewish stuff as the kehila is small and very very "modern".
I'm with you that Switzerland is too expensive for what it offers but if near a frontier you can sleep in another country. Basel zoo is very cool and they have a great heimish restaurant!
I think Madrid has some Jewish stuff. _________________
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 11:33 am Post subject: Re: re: Touring city in Europe |
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I'm with you that Switzerland is too expensive for what it offers but if near a frontier you can sleep in another country. |
I have a friend whose family lives in Geneva and whose brother goes to school in France, in Fernex-Voltaire  _________________ We must love one another or die.
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If you like skiing, there are quite a few ski resorts with kosher hotels in France, Switzerland and Italy.
Here's one example: http://hotel-lecretet.com/ski-cacher.html
If you're there during chanukah, I know that the Chabad rabbis from Grenoble have a public menorah lighting (along with free peppermint tea and sufganiot) in several of the big French resorts
As for me, I'll be spending that week visiting the UK
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 3:11 pm Post subject: re: Touring city in Europe |
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Thanks everyone ladies!!! As usual Imamother is the place to be for information!!!
I decided at the end to go to Venice, tickets are actually not so expensive in comparisen to other countries!!!! SO.... Venice here we come!!!!
A few questions: does anyone know what happened to the kosher hotel there?(Guardino Del Ghetto) it was under management of the Minkowits family but now it says on the website:
| Quote: | Dear visitor,
This is to inform you that the hotel GIARDINO DEL GHETTO is NO LONGER under the Minkowitz management, therefore you are advised that the kashrut is no longer under our responsability and the services within arte not under our responsability.
we have nothing to do with the above mentioned hotel.
Cordially
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Does anyone know something about this????
Second a few months ago I read in the Binah about all the places in Venice, now I've been to everything she mentioned there but one thing: the dodge's palace does anyone know where this is?
And last thing sorry for the spelling, as you can see my mother language is NOT english 
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: re: Touring city in Europe |
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| sequoia wrote: | | Ruchel wrote: |
I'm with you that Switzerland is too expensive for what it offers but if near a frontier you can sleep in another country. |
I have a friend whose family lives in Geneva and whose brother goes to school in France, in Fernex-Voltaire  |
My dh has heard of this place! it's in Geneva suburbs but in France indeed. But he says no Jewish school in Ferney.
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Posted: Thu, Nov 10 2011, 10:05 pm Post subject: re: Touring city in Europe |
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Venice: from what I understand that kosher hotel/B&B closed. But I've heard of someone with a kosher apartment. I've been to Ducale Palazzio but not done that tour. Watch out for high tide--aqua alta--which can flood plazas and you'll have to walk along wooden platforms. While vaporetto (water bus) is the most convenient to travel for long-ish distance along the grand canal, walking through narrow streets and canals have so much more ambience. Don't bother with rip-off gondolas.
I understand you've chosen Venice, but other European cities that meet your criteria would include Vienna (nice scenary and skiing outside of city), Rome (for me more interesting than Milano), Amsterdam (too close to home?), Barcelona, Andalucia (you can do day trips to Cordoba or Granada, stay in Marbella where there's a shul/kosher butcher), Gibraltar is another good option.
...or come to UK for Limmud! (we're going but after shabbat)
http://www.limmud.org/conference/
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Posted: Fri, Nov 11 2011, 7:35 am Post subject: re: Touring city in Europe |
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We just came back from 11 days in Spain. Weather was beautiful. Madrid has a kosher restaurant, but I can't recommend it.
We spent Shabbat in Torremolinos on the Costa del Sol - beautiful shul and kehilla, I don't know about food arrangements, because we were with a group and had it catered. There's also a big kehilla in Malaga.
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Posted: Fri, Nov 11 2011, 9:03 am Post subject: re: Touring city in Europe |
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Mrs. Bissli, do you really like Limud? My husband was asked to give a few shiurim there many years ago, he said it was a circus and he would never do it again...not exactly kiruv as he knows it...too intellectual for his tastes. _________________ "Olam Chessed Yiboneh", Tehilim 89.
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Posted: Fri, Nov 11 2011, 9:44 am Post subject: Re: re: Touring city in Europe |
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| freidasima wrote: | | Mrs. Bissli, do you really like Limud? My husband was asked to give a few shiurim there many years ago, he said it was a circus and he would never do it again...not exactly kiruv as he knows it...too intellectual for his tastes. |
it's cross community. So reform, liberal, nothing and also some orthodox rabbis. But I'm sure not all orthodox rabbis would be comfortable. I think last year a chabad rabbi participated, but I don't remember which one.
I think I would enjoy attending it. I imagine most people there are thinking people...But dh might hate it.
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Posted: Fri, Nov 11 2011, 9:53 am Post subject: re: Touring city in Europe |
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My husband said that what really bothered him was the circus effect and the fact that everyone was billed the same. At the same time he was giving his shiurim there were lectures on Jewish basket weaving and some touchy feely stuff and new age and he was to put it mildly horrified that rabbonim were being treated by the staff and participants as if they were entertainers, just like the new age speakers or musicians giving concerts...I think he is used to a very different atmosphere when giving shiurim.
In any case, he never went again although I gather he was quite a hit, as he said, if he is doing real kiruv it's under other circumstances and not to compete with musicians and new age gurus. But I can get the appeal if one is going for the Jewish circus effect! Just not for him, it's not his...thing.
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